Talk:FUG/@comment-84.92.164.80-20160112015300/@comment-5135787-20160112125049

my understanding is that karaka fears baam for some reason, which is why he originaly tried to kill him by melting him down and fusing him with the thorn.

From the conversation my guess is that they can still do that even if he dies or white/hoaquin is probably not going to actualy kill him.