Talk:White/Clone/@comment-25346948-20161116144059/@comment-26484417-20161118042416

In the first paragraph, you make an assumption that contractual boosts on Hoaqin would be negated, but then you don't apply the same to Yuri. What makes you think that Ha Family and / or Zahard boosts (e.g., the super physique) on Yuri aren't contract based?

Moreover, I believe may be underestimating the soul mechanics surrounding White / Hoaqin. From what we have seen, he uses the consumed souls as a fuel for his techniques; that's why when Hoaqin used that (for a Regular) huge Baang, Boro&Co were commenting about the number of souls he must have consumed. In other words, Hoaqin should be able to use his techniques as he always does--even in an environment that limits everyone else by sparse / weak Shinsoo--simply by relying more on his supply of souls. And this doesn't even account for the possibility that Hoaqin may be able to consume souls of others with ease when they are stripped of Shinsoo and possibly even contract based defences, resistances, and endurances.

If his soul-eating and soul fuelled techniques aren't going to be of much use because of the Shinsoo limitations as well as techniques of people who simply rely on Shinsoo, then my entire point is moot. However, I believe this is kind of what sets Hoaqin apart.

EDIT: It's definitely not fair 'either way': On the one hand, Hoaqin, Yuri and Evan are all equally "useless" on 43F. On the other hand, Yuri and Evan are "useless", while Hoaqin is just as dangerous as on any other Floor in exchange for greater cost of souls per technique.