Message Wall:Zahard

Welcome
Hi, welcome to Tower of God Wiki! Thanks for your edit to the Koon family page.

Please leave a message on my talk page if I can help with anything! -- Baam25th (Talk) 23:40, November 26, 2011

Hello there!

I have been away for a while, but now I should be editing quite a bit more... and expanding the wiki sounds great :)

Currently, I seem to be the only active admin (there weren't many of us in the first place), although I plan on getting permission to promote other users... but in the meantime, there are loads to be shifted.

And yes, increasing content would be a good idea. I'll try to get things moving faster on the Wiki over the next couple of weeks, and I'd be happy to help you where you need it :D

What do you desire? Fortune? Glory? Power? Revenge? Or something that surpasses all others? What ever you desire, that is here. Tower of God. 00:24, December 4, 2011 (UTC)Baam25th

YAY!!! LOTS OF EDITS!!! :D
Already 106 edits in 11-12 days!!! :D I'M ON A ROLL, I'LL BE A RANKER, AND THEN A HIGH-RANKER IN NO TIME FLAT!!! :D

"All the riches, beauty and mysticism, everything in the world -- no, even more existed up there." Shinsoo Blast 500 10:28, December 7, 2011 (UTC)

Not very busy right now...
We have had lots of editors on the wiki in the past, but over the past few months not many have been around... so yes, for now it is just you, me, and the occasional Sniter.

I did have a thread on Batoto about the ToG wiki, so I could always resurrect that, and see if anyone comes... :)

A bit of a problem... No biggie though XD
I think that some of my edits are suddenly dissappearing from the wiki, as last time i loaded the site, I had 109 edits, and then when I reloaded the site, my edits were decreased to 94, and my edits on some pages weren't visible anymore. Guys, make sure your edits are actually published and secured. :)

RANKER STATUS: 13 FLOORS LEFT!!! :D :D :D
It's been 21 Floors since I conquered Arie Hon's test.

YAAAAYYYYYYYYYYYY!!!! 134+ EDITS!!!! :D :D :D
'Tis been long since I became a Ranker of this wiki XD

"All the riches, beauty and mysticism, everything in the world -- no, even more existed up there." Shinsoo Blast 500 12:00, December 20, 2011 (UTC)

Bron may have marked up some of your pages as candidates for deletion, but they were not actually deleted (only admins and above can delete pages, Bron can't actually do that). It looks like you removed the category anyway, so there isn't much of a problem... you're right about not shooting down others work, I think he was just marking pages because they didn't have much information on the "Black September" for instance). I'll try and add a bit more info to some of these stubs.

As for protection, only admins can delete pages, so there is no need for a lock on that. If it is needed I can stop regular users from editing or moving pages.

-Sniter

lol shinsoo blast for president :D lots of edits from your side keep it up 0:

Hey Bro :)
well to be honest i was surprised a bit. nevertheless was glad that she was a reglar not an irregular. every one knew that she was some one who wasposing a facade but many started saying she was an irregular o i started out saying she was a regular not anything more

nice reading you :) --LightHouse(drop by my page once in a while its nice to talk abt common likings as long as the comments doesnt inundate my talks. nd i dun see that happening lol)

Good job on the edits mate :)

Thanks for the welcome :)

 Phantaninum 

Why is he the bad/evil guys O_o???? i didn't hear anything about him killing little children or attacking pregnant mothers O_o

Ya its a nice idea but it aint happening as i see it
Lero Ro is one of my fav so i was hoping that he gets a main role. He is quite strong too but i suppose Lero ro is kept in Dark altogether and Baam and the red hair (forgot her name) will climb being as incognito as possible.

i suppose Baam might learn all about wave controling from the red hair (she was destined to be a wave controller according to the administratior so i think perse her capabilities are wave controling)

Suppose Baam need to power up as we will be seeing the zahards main forces from now on. Yu Han Sung did innuendoed that ppl are anxious about Baam. not to mention Baam will try his best to get to rachel so we will have a Baam to match with all the odds in the next season.

I wish that is the case and SIU doest pull a Naruto on us (remember the gap between naruto and shippuden it was like 2.5 yrs and he didnt learn a thing apart from better clones and bigger rasengan as if it takes 2.5 yrs to learn these stuffs)

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Nice to read you

LightHouse

Yeah :P there is nothing new coming so i'll keep lookin trough the old stuff :3

(who adds Yuri to the R.E.D memberlist -.- i have to delete it everytime D: )

-Sniter

Manga
well i read it on batoto.com :3

i don't get that thing with the tildes._.

Sniter 12:47, January 19, 2012 (UTC)Sniter

hmm i liked naruto too
D i looled over your comment abt baam becoming too powerful and destroying the tower. I just hope that the next chap we get to see a matured baam who is living up to his reputaiton as a monster/supergenius and honed his skills and learned more.

Do you think Baam will amass another group of friends to climb?

i think thats highly improbable, what i do think nd hope is we will see change in spot light between baam and the rachel gang till they meet(ya i think they will meet b4 they reach the top nd i think they will meet in this season say at the end or in the middle)

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nice to read you as always~ Lighthouse(hope this kind of signature does the job)

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Part 2 is coming...
You posted on my profile about the lack of editors recently, and the break... I agree with you on that. I myself have still been visiting the Wiki over the past couple of weeks, but haven't found much to edit... still, I think part 2 is when things will get REALLY interesting, and I'm just waiting for the first new chapter :D User:Baam25th :3 cats. Tower of God Wiki. Everything Else. 23:18, January 29, 2012 (UTC)

Hey I noticed you were the one that added the Bedur Goostang page and I was wondering due to similarities in abilities, occupation and name if he's the same person as Po Bidur Gustang from the newest translations?Urek Mazino 01:23, February 27, 2012 (UTC)

Yeah it's good to see there's more people than me into ToG in Australia haha Urek Mazino 08:46, February 29, 2012 (UTC)

Hi

Thanks for the welcome, I think that I will mustly be doing minor edits. Tjekking that there are links between the pages and so on.

Yes, my name is means Odin :-)

Sigfodr 01:54, March 5, 2012 (UTC)

Namechange
GOtcha, you are Zahard now.

As for the poll, I will edit it in a day or two. Around march 20th hopefully.

User:Baam25th

BTW no worries, I just didn't post my sig :P

Hi and thanks
Have not been online for some time (not been home). Thanks for the encouragement, though I doubt I will ever get to your number of post's :-)

Btw. do you know how to ad subcategoris on the character page?

I think it would be a good idear with subcats for FUG, Walhaiksong, 10 great fam. characters in part 1, and characters in part 2.

Just like we have male, female, princesses etc. subcats.

Regards

Sigfodr 23:19, March 25, 2012 (UTC)

The mysterious case of the dissapearing Stefano
I have actually sent messages to Stefano on his talk page (concerning additional admins), but there has been no response. I will message him a couple more times in the next week or so, if he still does not respond I will talk to Wiki Central to see if they can bypass waiting months for him to respond and give me full rights, including admin promotion.

All this stuff is a bit odd, but I really think we could do with some more structure, considering that the number of users has been skyrocketing over the past few weeks :D

User:Baam25th What do you desire? I have it already... 04:27, March 28, 2012 (UTC)

Are you sure the Baam page shouldve been renamed, because some users and new readers wont be able to find the Baam page? A redirect would work though, but Jyu Viole Grace is just an alias and Baam is his actual name so I think the page should be called Twenty-Fifth Baam. Urek Mazino 10:49, March 30, 2012 (UTC)

Ah okay, I'm just a little iffy about the change, because Yuri doesn't go by Ha Yuri yet it's her name, but the other template was a good idea, the seperate templates will help whether the name stays or changes back so thanks :) Baam already redirects to Jyu Viole Grace so that helps too :) &quot;I am Brutalitops, the Magician...Magic user baby whaaat?&quot; 13:25, March 30, 2012 (UTC)

Well well...
I really wasn't expecting to go onto the wiki and find out I was a bureaucrat :P

But thanks! I should be able to help more with the wiki now that I can do all the complex stuff. :3 I'm having lots of fun browsing through all the new boxes I have...

BTW I made you an admin. You are just about the only guy with more edits than me, you've been interacting a lot with the other users, and you were practically fufilling the role already, all you needed were the extra rights :)

Also, if Urek Mazino shows up again I plan on promoting him as well.

So thanks! :D

User:Baam25th What do you desire? I have it already... 05:27, March 31, 2012 (UTC)

Whoa, you've been editing a lot more than me. Yu Han Sung

xDXDXDXD

Hey man long time since, remember me?
Hey again, man i was looking for you, didnt know that you changed your name. So how is the new event in TOG suiting you?

got any good/bad vibes abt it ?

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Nice to read you as always~ LightHouse

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Hi, a question. How do you get the "table of contents" that shows up on some characters' pages? I tried to look at the source but couldn't find it. Do only admins have the ability to edit that in?

Thanks! XD Tofu21 10:55, April 9, 2012 (UTC)

Nevermind, I figured out how to get the "contents" table... =) Tofu21 15:24, April 9, 2012 (UTC)

Thanks, I like the idea of adminship but I'll have to decline it.

I'm only free right now for a short period of time. After that, I'm afraid I won't be able to edit the wiki much again.

Tofu21 05:20, April 16, 2012 (UTC)

Well...
Frankly, you need to get someone who'll stick around a lot. ^^;;

I only got back from a 6 month disappearance from the Batoto forums but after this time, I'll be busy again.

Tofu21 08:34, April 16, 2012 (UTC)

Btw, on the Opera page, it mentions an Armour inventory. Do you know if it's the same as an arms inventory? Tofu21 15:51, April 16, 2012 (UTC)

Nah nvm, sigfodr explained it to me... lol. Tofu21 18:15, April 16, 2012 (UTC)

Thanks :D&quot;I am Brutalitops! The Magician...Magic user baby, whaaat?&quot; 12:07, April 19, 2012 (UTC)

Yo!
hey man sorry i didn't reply!!!

because of my school, i have a tendency to just disappear from this site for extended periods of time. thanks for helping to appoint baam25th to a bureucrat!! he is definitely the most suitable to run the site in my absence (which is like, all the time haha).

anyway, my role on the site is pretty much just to handle all of the coding and layout designs and such. the reason i didn't reply is because i didn't check this site and i never check my emails so i received notifications. but i actually just made a batoto account so if you have one you can add me as a friend or whatnot on it. my account name is 'ehpakamatches'. if you've got any suggestions for how the site should look in terms of actual design layout, you can send me a pm on batoto, i'll definitely get the notification because i always read manga and manhwa on that site.

thanks for being so patient!

Stefano1Ryuuzaki1 13:33, April 23, 2012 (UTC)

A question about Tower Observers
Hey, just a question. I noticed you'd created this page: Tower Observer. Erm, I tried to find the source within the Batoto forums ... but couldn't find it. Do you know where the source comes from? The Korean site?

Tofu21 15:09, April 23, 2012 (UTC)

She was a bit creepy but dear gods, the impact.

I see she creeped you out.

Wait... so "Tower Observer"... the Korean wiki didn't release the source link? Oh crap... :x So, should the content be struck out for now?

Also, Baam25thSupporter has struck again. Getting a bit tired of seeing his lengthy comments everywhere and him/her running off after making 1 to 2 lengthy comments. But nothing I can do, except to express my irritation. Hopefully, I didn't go overboard.

Also, I deleted some comment on Rachel's page... feel free to review it and undo it, if my judgement was off.

http://towerofgod.wikia.com/wiki/Special:Log/delete

Tofu21 16:33, April 24, 2012 (UTC)

Looks like I scared him off. =/

I'd better apologise 'cos I was actually trying to prevent people from arguing over whose facts are more solid, which happens often when someone decides to attack another person for putting up info they deem inaccurate. ><;;

Ugh, I wonder if she's called "Shasha"... and I hope the chapter lengths don't get even shorter. :(

I still apologised as I did sound a bit like a cranky old man. ><;;I practically wrote that his post was long and rambling. -__-;;

Anyways, I'm going to go rest. See you... that long, blond hair of mine is getting too unruly and it needs styling. =P

K then I'll strike out the info on the Tower Observer page until it's confirmed. =P As in: no delete yet.

Tofu21 14:24, April 25, 2012 (UTC)

Ultimate Ultimate Welcome
I love it :D It looks awesome, and it's nice to have a big image as the header :)

Keep up the good work!

User:Baam25th Whatever you desire, we have a page on it... Tower of God Wiki 19:50, April 25, 2012 (UTC)

New Welcome Banner
Hey I think the new banner looks awesome!!!! Nice work!

I think you did good. Did you do it with photoshop? Cos if you have photoshop, do you think you could work on a title banner for the site too? Y'know, the one that's ontop every page: it's got "Tower of God" written and half of Baam's face behind it. Maybe you could add some gradient shading or even just a simple border or a complete redesign? Whatever you think is cool.

Stefano1Ryuuzaki1 10:18, April 26, 2012 (UTC)

Okay...
I didn't really see much problem with having Bunny's old profile page around... but I suppose it might have confused new users looking for admins. OK then :D

User:Baam25th Whatever you desire, we have a page on it... Tower of God Wiki 05:02, April 27, 2012 (UTC)

Chicken
Erm, about 600++ to 700++ of edits belong to article edits. The rest are Talk page edits, I think.

Also, I got fed up with the confusion between irregular and regular, so check this out:

http://towerofgod.wikia.com/wiki/Regular

http://towerofgod.wikia.com/wiki/Irregular

Tofu21 23:31, April 27, 2012 (UTC)

Because a lot of people still think that Baam is a Regular and he was only on Floor 1 'cos of some whackadoo reason(like he's the construct of "someone" or he's Phantaminum/Headon/Blach March and so on). =_=

They don't understand that the difficulty of Floor 1 test was natural was 'cos it was a Guardian's test and designed to test Baam on certain qualities: determination to find Rachel despite the vastness of the Tower, lack of fear in the face of potential death, perseverance to go on even if he might die, and so on... I'm too tired to remember the rest of the reasons.

That's why I'm literally putting up a signboard. >_<;;

Tofu21 03:14, April 28, 2012 (UTC)

Odin
About sigfodr.

He's next in line to be an admin, I just don't think we need one yet. We have 3 active ones right now, plus me, and even stefano has come back a bit recently. I'll probably get around to promoting him sooner of later, but not quite yet.

User:Baam25th Whatever you desire, we have a page on it... Tower of God Wiki 04:56, April 28, 2012 (UTC)

Hahaha... there are still people who somehow, miss out on that. And who still manage to interpret it as something else. I can't blame them... the comic is damn confusing at times. And I'm very sure even many of the Korean fans probably have a hard time too, trying to work out all the details.

Tofu21 06:25, April 28, 2012 (UTC)

Well, we don't even know if Phantaminum simply "teleported" onto the 134th Floor instead of taking any Tests. That he suddenly appeared... makes me suspect he's that ability and simply entered the Tower by teleporting himself to a set location.

Plus, he could've been completely aware of the events in the Tower even when he was outside it.

And Rachel is neither an irregular or a regular. She didn't force open the door. Baam did but by coincidence, she was teleported inside by mistake.

Tofu21 07:11, April 28, 2012 (UTC)

I'm curious: where in the comic does it confirm that an irregular is not permitted to enter the Tower? Yuri Zahard did mention that an irregular is probably unwelcome by Headon but you know Headon is very manipulative, right? And that's also probably part of the Zahard propaganda to probably insinuate that the royalty and ruling class are godly and blah blah...

It's never written in the comic(I think) that they've to force open the doors. Rather, I think it's even possible the Tower chooses them or they're the only ones who can open the doors due to their qualities or strengths. (And then, the Tower teleports the person into it 'cos very few beings can teleport. Although Rachel was right next to him so it might've missed.)

Otherwise, why would there be a need for Headon to teleport into the Outer Tower and outside the Tower to select a Regular? 'Cos all these people can't open the doors.

'Cos since a long time ago, people have entered the Tower to take guardian's tests. In a way, that makes them "welcome" by the Tower, no? 'Cos that's the purpose of that place: to climb and take gruelling tests and the Victor of them all gets likely, a very special something(wish, power or something else). In a way, Regulars would've been considered unwelcome.

Tofu21 07:56, April 28, 2012 (UTC)

No wait, you're probably somewhat right 'cos I forgot about hte politics.

Long ago, irregulars = welcome. Due to political change, irregulars = not welcome so they may have to force open the doors themselves?

O wait.. just forget the whole thing. ><;; I think I'll just place a note that "irregulars are assumed to force open the doors" for now and that'll remain until more evidence appears within the comic.

Hey, I kind of need some help with this issue.

You see, I asked 43rdFloorGuardian to help with The Tower page 'cos it was getting kind of cluttered and i didn't really know how to fix it.

K, well... he's okay in editing buttttt... he sort of rewrote some of the sentences too much which completely changed the meaning(when transferring some of the "Shinsoo" info into the Shinsoo page), some of the parts about the Regulars), he kind of removed most or all the sources I put in(even if it was for trivial info, so we can track the chapter/blog post) and also, some of the "Notes" still had to do with the Tower itself and were of importance('cos they're about the society and how people are perceived generally).

In short, I have no idea what to do. =__= Plus, I'm dead tired atm and don't really have time to undo some of the changes and so on. Please, dear King Zahard, you must help me to fix this situation! :(

Try comparing the previous state of the Tower page with the Shinsoo page please. And please talk to him 'cos I now put you in-charge of fixing the Page. =P

Tofu21 11:50, April 29, 2012 (UTC)

What? You undid all of 43rd's work? Damn... =P I feel really bad since I did like his work. He was actually transferring information to other pages so I'm not so sure which other pages he did touch. Go talk to him some more.... I'm going back to break.

Tofu21 07:56, April 30, 2012 (UTC)

Tower Structure thing
Which parts are you referring to? The 'abridgement' I was referring to was merely really deleting the lines between two paragraphs... a mere reformatting to make it look more appealing next to the image...

Other than that... all I really did was add some things to the intro section; removed the 'notes' or rules (then added a summarised version at Tofu's request, though I do not think that it suits a page on 'structure'), swapped the order of information a bit and condense where appropriate...

Are you talking about the sections below the 'notes' perhaps? A simple copy and paste of the versions that I edited?

43rdFloorGuardian 10:02, April 30, 2012 (UTC)

Coconut land
Well, you can try to combine part of his edits with the stuff I wrote. =P But still, keep part or all of the format he used.. cos he was moving things all over the page and placing some of the content on other pages.

I don't know... just think about it. =P

But did you also read what I wrote in your latest blogpost? If we can have some editorial guidelines, I think this situation can be averted in the future.

{C}Oh and a few days ago, someone tried to give me a suggestion about the Wiki. Naturally, I turned her down flat and very bluntly 'cos I didn't really feel like encouraging her. Too bad, she felt offended but she didn't even think through her own suggestion before posting.

http://www.batoto.net/forums/index.php?app=members&module=profile&section=status&do=list&status_id=10905

Tofu21 19:31, April 30, 2012 (UTC)

Quick note (I have put this here instead of in the section I made because I wanted to ensure that it remained in chronological order)

Can you check out my blog post at Blog Post (I am not sure if this link will work... for some reason right now when I use URLs (even after selecting them from the drop down box in the link window they seem to screw up) regarding this Structure wiki.

Also if you have time could you please delete the Evan Edrock page (note the c), this is a typo (I did not set it up) and it redirects for some reason to Yu Han Sung's page, attempted to redirect this to Evan Edrok as a stop gap, but it did not work for me.

43rdFloorGuardian 02:34, May 2, 2012 (UTC)

What first class comedian? =P She seemed pretty persistent, it seemed like she'd need answers for everything she didn't understand, and I believe I might've tried to turn her down politely but it seemed to sail past her head. And I was not going to handle any other suggestion she made, seeing as she doesn't even know how Wikis function. As in: no matter how I'd have to turn her down, she'd still be offended.

I don't think Yuri Zahard can belong to RED. RED is an assassin group meant to go after naughty Princesses who've broken the King's laws. Btw, take a good look at the difference between the Zahard symbol and the RED symbol. There's a difference. There's a line dropping down from the 2nd eye in the RED symbol. The Zahard symbol seems to have none for now.

Erm, okay wait... if you have a user account on the Batoto forums, let me know... I gotta invite you to a conversation(very important).

Tofu21 08:58, May 1, 2012 (UTC)

Well that's a shame. Whatever, I'll just wait for Baam25th to come on and if not, for you to get your account.

However, I'm hoping either of the 2 will happen soon 'cos I can't and won't do any editing until the situation is resolved.

And errr this situation is too delicate to be pasted on the Talk page itself. (There's no privacy and that's why I'm using the Batoto forums PM system.)

Tofu21 23:42, May 3, 2012 (UTC)

Okay sure. I'll just send you the screenshot when I get home. I don't have access to a PC right now. And sorry for all the trouble. I'd deal with this if I even knew what to do. Urek Mazino said to wait for Stefano, I pmed Baam25th but he seems busy.

Oranges
Thanks so much! Message has been sent.

It's long but please don't kill me. ><

And I'm gonna sleep soon 'cos my back is killing me. I had too little sleep this week so i'm in full rage mode. Yup, sleep before I ... nvm... try to fight with a tree or something.

Tofu21 12:47, May 4, 2012 (UTC)

Thanks!

Anyways sorry for my long rambling reply 'cos I'm tired and unable to summarise.

Well, pick a way which will deliver the message and whichever way suits you better? 'Cos you're the more experienced admin who likely knows what to do.

Tofu21 13:09, May 4, 2012 (UTC)

Okay, just read the new Youtube messages from me.Sorry for my bad english but I'm in a rush too.

Anyways, the other admins(Stefano, Baam25th) might proceed on a conversation about formatting, subset character pages standards in a "Conversation thread" in Batoto. I suggested that we do it in a thread in the TOG forums but Baam suggested it be done in there.

So when you really have time to, trust me... get in there. I'll try to delay the conversation.

Tofu21 05:27, May 5, 2012 (UTC)

How about ForgivenUnderGrace ?

TheUltimateKingZahard? LOL...

ZahardKnowsBest ?

Ahhhh I don't know... pick something you like best. If not, I'll come up with something silly. BananaFrittersZahard

DancingCoconutZahard

Tofu21 06:57, May 5, 2012 (UTC)

Do what you want... =P :)

Pick the one you like, not the one I like, man.

What visionary? o.O

Tofu21 07:03, May 5, 2012 (UTC)

I know, I responded to you on there.

Tofu21 07:18, May 5, 2012 (UTC)

sorry for a late reply :)
sorry for the lateness Exams and social pressure had me MIA-ed for some time now.

As for Part II i think this is the best possible part II ever, most of the part II s after time skip has the characters changed only when powers are concerned but the character maturity and variety stays the same its like NOTHING happened i enterd a time chamber and trained in the mean time.

TOG managed to break that cliche, Baam took a paradigm shift. Indicating a lot of character change within him

this is sth i like

Now Love is somebody who i dun like particularly, he is just too preppy and snobish

Eagrely waiting for the next chap Baam vs Love starts :XD

nd as usual Its nice to read you ~LightHouse

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Seriosly there is a break?! man thats a sad news to imbibe, the ending was an epic cliff hanger

so what do you think will happen? My prognosis goes like this

Baam and love will fight obviously Baam will be weaker but he is a frigging shisnso tech copy cat so every fatal move Love throws at him makes him weaker physically yet strengthen his shinso tech arsenal.

All in all i see love being the dominant one but i think in the end the admistrator will intervene before a winner is officially decided

Its nice to read you ~LightHouse

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