Message Wall:Zahard

Welcome
Hi, welcome to Tower of God Wiki! Thanks for your edit to the Koon family page.

Please leave a message on my talk page if I can help with anything! -- Baam25th (Talk) 23:40, November 26, 2011

Hello there!

I have been away for a while, but now I should be editing quite a bit more... and expanding the wiki sounds great :)

Currently, I seem to be the only active admin (there weren't many of us in the first place), although I plan on getting permission to promote other users... but in the meantime, there are loads to be shifted.

And yes, increasing content would be a good idea. I'll try to get things moving faster on the Wiki over the next couple of weeks, and I'd be happy to help you where you need it :D

What do you desire? Fortune? Glory? Power? Revenge? Or something that surpasses all others? What ever you desire, that is here. Tower of God. 00:24, December 4, 2011 (UTC)Baam25th

YAY!!! LOTS OF EDITS!!! :D
Already 106 edits in 11-12 days!!! :D I'M ON A ROLL, I'LL BE A RANKER, AND THEN A HIGH-RANKER IN NO TIME FLAT!!! :D

"All the riches, beauty and mysticism, everything in the world -- no, even more existed up there." Shinsoo Blast 500 10:28, December 7, 2011 (UTC)

Not very busy right now...
We have had lots of editors on the wiki in the past, but over the past few months not many have been around... so yes, for now it is just you, me, and the occasional Sniter.

I did have a thread on Batoto about the ToG wiki, so I could always resurrect that, and see if anyone comes... :)

A bit of a problem... No biggie though XD
I think that some of my edits are suddenly dissappearing from the wiki, as last time i loaded the site, I had 109 edits, and then when I reloaded the site, my edits were decreased to 94, and my edits on some pages weren't visible anymore. Guys, make sure your edits are actually published and secured. :)

RANKER STATUS: 13 FLOORS LEFT!!! :D :D :D
It's been 21 Floors since I conquered Arie Hon's test.

YAAAAYYYYYYYYYYYY!!!! 134+ EDITS!!!! :D :D :D
'Tis been long since I became a Ranker of this wiki XD

"All the riches, beauty and mysticism, everything in the world -- no, even more existed up there." Shinsoo Blast 500 12:00, December 20, 2011 (UTC)

Bron may have marked up some of your pages as candidates for deletion, but they were not actually deleted (only admins and above can delete pages, Bron can't actually do that). It looks like you removed the category anyway, so there isn't much of a problem... you're right about not shooting down others work, I think he was just marking pages because they didn't have much information on the "Black September" for instance). I'll try and add a bit more info to some of these stubs.

As for protection, only admins can delete pages, so there is no need for a lock on that. If it is needed I can stop regular users from editing or moving pages.

-Sniter

lol shinsoo blast for president :D lots of edits from your side keep it up 0:

Hey Bro :)
well to be honest i was surprised a bit. nevertheless was glad that she was a reglar not an irregular. every one knew that she was some one who wasposing a facade but many started saying she was an irregular o i started out saying she was a regular not anything more

nice reading you :) --LightHouse(drop by my page once in a while its nice to talk abt common likings as long as the comments doesnt inundate my talks. nd i dun see that happening lol)

Good job on the edits mate :)

Thanks for the welcome :)

 Phantaninum 

Why is he the bad/evil guys O_o???? i didn't hear anything about him killing little children or attacking pregnant mothers O_o

Ya its a nice idea but it aint happening as i see it
Lero Ro is one of my fav so i was hoping that he gets a main role. He is quite strong too but i suppose Lero ro is kept in Dark altogether and Baam and the red hair (forgot her name) will climb being as incognito as possible.

i suppose Baam might learn all about wave controling from the red hair (she was destined to be a wave controller according to the administratior so i think perse her capabilities are wave controling)

Suppose Baam need to power up as we will be seeing the zahards main forces from now on. Yu Han Sung did innuendoed that ppl are anxious about Baam. not to mention Baam will try his best to get to rachel so we will have a Baam to match with all the odds in the next season.

I wish that is the case and SIU doest pull a Naruto on us (remember the gap between naruto and shippuden it was like 2.5 yrs and he didnt learn a thing apart from better clones and bigger rasengan as if it takes 2.5 yrs to learn these stuffs)

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Nice to read you

LightHouse

Yeah :P there is nothing new coming so i'll keep lookin trough the old stuff :3

(who adds Yuri to the R.E.D memberlist -.- i have to delete it everytime D: )

-Sniter

Manga
well i read it on batoto.com :3

i don't get that thing with the tildes._.

Sniter 12:47, January 19, 2012 (UTC)Sniter

hmm i liked naruto too
D i looled over your comment abt baam becoming too powerful and destroying the tower. I just hope that the next chap we get to see a matured baam who is living up to his reputaiton as a monster/supergenius and honed his skills and learned more.

Do you think Baam will amass another group of friends to climb?

i think thats highly improbable, what i do think nd hope is we will see change in spot light between baam and the rachel gang till they meet(ya i think they will meet b4 they reach the top nd i think they will meet in this season say at the end or in the middle)

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nice to read you as always~ Lighthouse(hope this kind of signature does the job)

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Part 2 is coming...
You posted on my profile about the lack of editors recently, and the break... I agree with you on that. I myself have still been visiting the Wiki over the past couple of weeks, but haven't found much to edit... still, I think part 2 is when things will get REALLY interesting, and I'm just waiting for the first new chapter :D User:Baam25th :3 cats. Tower of God Wiki. Everything Else. 23:18, January 29, 2012 (UTC)

Hey I noticed you were the one that added the Bedur Goostang page and I was wondering due to similarities in abilities, occupation and name if he's the same person as Po Bidur Gustang from the newest translations?Urek Mazino 01:23, February 27, 2012 (UTC)

Yeah it's good to see there's more people than me into ToG in Australia haha Urek Mazino 08:46, February 29, 2012 (UTC)

Hi

Thanks for the welcome, I think that I will mustly be doing minor edits. Tjekking that there are links between the pages and so on.

Yes, my name is means Odin :-)

Sigfodr 01:54, March 5, 2012 (UTC)

Namechange
GOtcha, you are Zahard now.

As for the poll, I will edit it in a day or two. Around march 20th hopefully.

User:Baam25th

BTW no worries, I just didn't post my sig :P

Hi and thanks
Have not been online for some time (not been home). Thanks for the encouragement, though I doubt I will ever get to your number of post's :-)

Btw. do you know how to ad subcategoris on the character page?

I think it would be a good idear with subcats for FUG, Walhaiksong, 10 great fam. characters in part 1, and characters in part 2.

Just like we have male, female, princesses etc. subcats.

Regards

Sigfodr 23:19, March 25, 2012 (UTC)

The mysterious case of the dissapearing Stefano
I have actually sent messages to Stefano on his talk page (concerning additional admins), but there has been no response. I will message him a couple more times in the next week or so, if he still does not respond I will talk to Wiki Central to see if they can bypass waiting months for him to respond and give me full rights, including admin promotion.

All this stuff is a bit odd, but I really think we could do with some more structure, considering that the number of users has been skyrocketing over the past few weeks :D

User:Baam25th What do you desire? I have it already... 04:27, March 28, 2012 (UTC)

Are you sure the Baam page shouldve been renamed, because some users and new readers wont be able to find the Baam page? A redirect would work though, but Jyu Viole Grace is just an alias and Baam is his actual name so I think the page should be called Twenty-Fifth Baam. Urek Mazino 10:49, March 30, 2012 (UTC)

Ah okay, I'm just a little iffy about the change, because Yuri doesn't go by Ha Yuri yet it's her name, but the other template was a good idea, the seperate templates will help whether the name stays or changes back so thanks :) Baam already redirects to Jyu Viole Grace so that helps too :) &quot;I am Brutalitops, the Magician...Magic user baby whaaat?&quot; 13:25, March 30, 2012 (UTC)

Well well...
I really wasn't expecting to go onto the wiki and find out I was a bureaucrat :P

But thanks! I should be able to help more with the wiki now that I can do all the complex stuff. :3 I'm having lots of fun browsing through all the new boxes I have...

BTW I made you an admin. You are just about the only guy with more edits than me, you've been interacting a lot with the other users, and you were practically fufilling the role already, all you needed were the extra rights :)

Also, if Urek Mazino shows up again I plan on promoting him as well.

So thanks! :D

User:Baam25th What do you desire? I have it already... 05:27, March 31, 2012 (UTC)

Whoa, you've been editing a lot more than me. Yu Han Sung

xDXDXDXD

Hey man long time since, remember me?
Hey again, man i was looking for you, didnt know that you changed your name. So how is the new event in TOG suiting you?

got any good/bad vibes abt it ?

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Nice to read you as always~ LightHouse

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Hi, a question. How do you get the "table of contents" that shows up on some characters' pages? I tried to look at the source but couldn't find it. Do only admins have the ability to edit that in?

Thanks! XD Tofu21 10:55, April 9, 2012 (UTC)

Nevermind, I figured out how to get the "contents" table... =) Tofu21 15:24, April 9, 2012 (UTC)

Thanks, I like the idea of adminship but I'll have to decline it.

I'm only free right now for a short period of time. After that, I'm afraid I won't be able to edit the wiki much again.

Tofu21 05:20, April 16, 2012 (UTC)

Well...
Frankly, you need to get someone who'll stick around a lot. ^^;;

I only got back from a 6 month disappearance from the Batoto forums but after this time, I'll be busy again.

Tofu21 08:34, April 16, 2012 (UTC)

Btw, on the Opera page, it mentions an Armour inventory. Do you know if it's the same as an arms inventory? Tofu21 15:51, April 16, 2012 (UTC)

Nah nvm, sigfodr explained it to me... lol. Tofu21 18:15, April 16, 2012 (UTC)

Thanks :D&quot;I am Brutalitops! The Magician...Magic user baby, whaaat?&quot; 12:07, April 19, 2012 (UTC)

Yo!
hey man sorry i didn't reply!!!

because of my school, i have a tendency to just disappear from this site for extended periods of time. thanks for helping to appoint baam25th to a bureucrat!! he is definitely the most suitable to run the site in my absence (which is like, all the time haha).

anyway, my role on the site is pretty much just to handle all of the coding and layout designs and such. the reason i didn't reply is because i didn't check this site and i never check my emails so i received notifications. but i actually just made a batoto account so if you have one you can add me as a friend or whatnot on it. my account name is 'ehpakamatches'. if you've got any suggestions for how the site should look in terms of actual design layout, you can send me a pm on batoto, i'll definitely get the notification because i always read manga and manhwa on that site.

thanks for being so patient!

Stefano1Ryuuzaki1 13:33, April 23, 2012 (UTC)

A question about Tower Observers
Hey, just a question. I noticed you'd created this page: Tower Observer. Erm, I tried to find the source within the Batoto forums ... but couldn't find it. Do you know where the source comes from? The Korean site?

Tofu21 15:09, April 23, 2012 (UTC)

She was a bit creepy but dear gods, the impact.

I see she creeped you out.

Wait... so "Tower Observer"... the Korean wiki didn't release the source link? Oh crap... :x So, should the content be struck out for now?

Also, Baam25thSupporter has struck again. Getting a bit tired of seeing his lengthy comments everywhere and him/her running off after making 1 to 2 lengthy comments. But nothing I can do, except to express my irritation. Hopefully, I didn't go overboard.

Also, I deleted some comment on Rachel's page... feel free to review it and undo it, if my judgement was off.

http://towerofgod.wikia.com/wiki/Special:Log/delete

Tofu21 16:33, April 24, 2012 (UTC)

Looks like I scared him off. =/

I'd better apologise 'cos I was actually trying to prevent people from arguing over whose facts are more solid, which happens often when someone decides to attack another person for putting up info they deem inaccurate. ><;;

Ugh, I wonder if she's called "Shasha"... and I hope the chapter lengths don't get even shorter. :(

I still apologised as I did sound a bit like a cranky old man. ><;;I practically wrote that his post was long and rambling. -__-;;

Anyways, I'm going to go rest. See you... that long, blond hair of mine is getting too unruly and it needs styling. =P

K then I'll strike out the info on the Tower Observer page until it's confirmed. =P As in: no delete yet.

Tofu21 14:24, April 25, 2012 (UTC)

Ultimate Ultimate Welcome
I love it :D It looks awesome, and it's nice to have a big image as the header :)

Keep up the good work!

User:Baam25th Whatever you desire, we have a page on it... Tower of God Wiki 19:50, April 25, 2012 (UTC)

New Welcome Banner
Hey I think the new banner looks awesome!!!! Nice work!

I think you did good. Did you do it with photoshop? Cos if you have photoshop, do you think you could work on a title banner for the site too? Y'know, the one that's ontop every page: it's got "Tower of God" written and half of Baam's face behind it. Maybe you could add some gradient shading or even just a simple border or a complete redesign? Whatever you think is cool.

Stefano1Ryuuzaki1 10:18, April 26, 2012 (UTC)

Okay...
I didn't really see much problem with having Bunny's old profile page around... but I suppose it might have confused new users looking for admins. OK then :D

User:Baam25th Whatever you desire, we have a page on it... Tower of God Wiki 05:02, April 27, 2012 (UTC)

Chicken
Erm, about 600++ to 700++ of edits belong to article edits. The rest are Talk page edits, I think.

Also, I got fed up with the confusion between irregular and regular, so check this out:

http://towerofgod.wikia.com/wiki/Regular

http://towerofgod.wikia.com/wiki/Irregular

Tofu21 23:31, April 27, 2012 (UTC)

Because a lot of people still think that Baam is a Regular and he was only on Floor 1 'cos of some whackadoo reason(like he's the construct of "someone" or he's Phantaminum/Headon/Blach March and so on). =_=

They don't understand that the difficulty of Floor 1 test was natural was 'cos it was a Guardian's test and designed to test Baam on certain qualities: determination to find Rachel despite the vastness of the Tower, lack of fear in the face of potential death, perseverance to go on even if he might die, and so on... I'm too tired to remember the rest of the reasons.

That's why I'm literally putting up a signboard. >_<;;

Tofu21 03:14, April 28, 2012 (UTC)

Odin
About sigfodr.

He's next in line to be an admin, I just don't think we need one yet. We have 3 active ones right now, plus me, and even stefano has come back a bit recently. I'll probably get around to promoting him sooner of later, but not quite yet.

User:Baam25th Whatever you desire, we have a page on it... Tower of God Wiki 04:56, April 28, 2012 (UTC)

Hahaha... there are still people who somehow, miss out on that. And who still manage to interpret it as something else. I can't blame them... the comic is damn confusing at times. And I'm very sure even many of the Korean fans probably have a hard time too, trying to work out all the details.

Tofu21 06:25, April 28, 2012 (UTC)

Well, we don't even know if Phantaminum simply "teleported" onto the 134th Floor instead of taking any Tests. That he suddenly appeared... makes me suspect he's that ability and simply entered the Tower by teleporting himself to a set location.

Plus, he could've been completely aware of the events in the Tower even when he was outside it.

And Rachel is neither an irregular or a regular. She didn't force open the door. Baam did but by coincidence, she was teleported inside by mistake.

Tofu21 07:11, April 28, 2012 (UTC)

I'm curious: where in the comic does it confirm that an irregular is not permitted to enter the Tower? Yuri Zahard did mention that an irregular is probably unwelcome by Headon but you know Headon is very manipulative, right? And that's also probably part of the Zahard propaganda to probably insinuate that the royalty and ruling class are godly and blah blah...

It's never written in the comic(I think) that they've to force open the doors. Rather, I think it's even possible the Tower chooses them or they're the only ones who can open the doors due to their qualities or strengths. (And then, the Tower teleports the person into it 'cos very few beings can teleport. Although Rachel was right next to him so it might've missed.)

Otherwise, why would there be a need for Headon to teleport into the Outer Tower and outside the Tower to select a Regular? 'Cos all these people can't open the doors.

'Cos since a long time ago, people have entered the Tower to take guardian's tests. In a way, that makes them "welcome" by the Tower, no? 'Cos that's the purpose of that place: to climb and take gruelling tests and the Victor of them all gets likely, a very special something(wish, power or something else). In a way, Regulars would've been considered unwelcome.

Tofu21 07:56, April 28, 2012 (UTC)

No wait, you're probably somewhat right 'cos I forgot about hte politics.

Long ago, irregulars = welcome. Due to political change, irregulars = not welcome so they may have to force open the doors themselves?

O wait.. just forget the whole thing. ><;; I think I'll just place a note that "irregulars are assumed to force open the doors" for now and that'll remain until more evidence appears within the comic.

Hey, I kind of need some help with this issue.

You see, I asked 43rdFloorGuardian to help with The Tower page 'cos it was getting kind of cluttered and i didn't really know how to fix it.

K, well... he's okay in editing buttttt... he sort of rewrote some of the sentences too much which completely changed the meaning(when transferring some of the "Shinsoo" info into the Shinsoo page), some of the parts about the Regulars), he kind of removed most or all the sources I put in(even if it was for trivial info, so we can track the chapter/blog post) and also, some of the "Notes" still had to do with the Tower itself and were of importance('cos they're about the society and how people are perceived generally).

In short, I have no idea what to do. =__= Plus, I'm dead tired atm and don't really have time to undo some of the changes and so on. Please, dear King Zahard, you must help me to fix this situation! :(

Try comparing the previous state of the Tower page with the Shinsoo page please. And please talk to him 'cos I now put you in-charge of fixing the Page. =P

Tofu21 11:50, April 29, 2012 (UTC)

What? You undid all of 43rd's work? Damn... =P I feel really bad since I did like his work. He was actually transferring information to other pages so I'm not so sure which other pages he did touch. Go talk to him some more.... I'm going back to break.

Tofu21 07:56, April 30, 2012 (UTC)

Tower Structure thing
Which parts are you referring to? The 'abridgement' I was referring to was merely really deleting the lines between two paragraphs... a mere reformatting to make it look more appealing next to the image...

Other than that... all I really did was add some things to the intro section; removed the 'notes' or rules (then added a summarised version at Tofu's request, though I do not think that it suits a page on 'structure'), swapped the order of information a bit and condense where appropriate...

Are you talking about the sections below the 'notes' perhaps? A simple copy and paste of the versions that I edited?

43rdFloorGuardian 10:02, April 30, 2012 (UTC)

Coconut land
Well, you can try to combine part of his edits with the stuff I wrote. =P But still, keep part or all of the format he used.. cos he was moving things all over the page and placing some of the content on other pages.

I don't know... just think about it. =P

But did you also read what I wrote in your latest blogpost? If we can have some editorial guidelines, I think this situation can be averted in the future.

{C}Oh and a few days ago, someone tried to give me a suggestion about the Wiki. Naturally, I turned her down flat and very bluntly 'cos I didn't really feel like encouraging her. Too bad, she felt offended but she didn't even think through her own suggestion before posting.

http://www.batoto.net/forums/index.php?app=members&module=profile&section=status&do=list&status_id=10905

Tofu21 19:31, April 30, 2012 (UTC)

Quick note (I have put this here instead of in the section I made because I wanted to ensure that it remained in chronological order)

Can you check out my blog post at Blog Post (I am not sure if this link will work... for some reason right now when I use URLs (even after selecting them from the drop down box in the link window they seem to screw up) regarding this Structure wiki.

Also if you have time could you please delete the Evan Edrock page (note the c), this is a typo (I did not set it up) and it redirects for some reason to Yu Han Sung's page, attempted to redirect this to Evan Edrok as a stop gap, but it did not work for me.

43rdFloorGuardian 02:34, May 2, 2012 (UTC)

What first class comedian? =P She seemed pretty persistent, it seemed like she'd need answers for everything she didn't understand, and I believe I might've tried to turn her down politely but it seemed to sail past her head. And I was not going to handle any other suggestion she made, seeing as she doesn't even know how Wikis function. As in: no matter how I'd have to turn her down, she'd still be offended.

I don't think Yuri Zahard can belong to RED. RED is an assassin group meant to go after naughty Princesses who've broken the King's laws. Btw, take a good look at the difference between the Zahard symbol and the RED symbol. There's a difference. There's a line dropping down from the 2nd eye in the RED symbol. The Zahard symbol seems to have none for now.

Erm, okay wait... if you have a user account on the Batoto forums, let me know... I gotta invite you to a conversation(very important).

Tofu21 08:58, May 1, 2012 (UTC)

Well that's a shame. Whatever, I'll just wait for Baam25th to come on and if not, for you to get your account.

However, I'm hoping either of the 2 will happen soon 'cos I can't and won't do any editing until the situation is resolved.

And errr this situation is too delicate to be pasted on the Talk page itself. (There's no privacy and that's why I'm using the Batoto forums PM system.)

Tofu21 23:42, May 3, 2012 (UTC)

Okay sure. I'll just send you the screenshot when I get home. I don't have access to a PC right now. And sorry for all the trouble. I'd deal with this if I even knew what to do. Urek Mazino said to wait for Stefano, I pmed Baam25th but he seems busy.

Oranges
Thanks so much! Message has been sent.

It's long but please don't kill me. ><

And I'm gonna sleep soon 'cos my back is killing me. I had too little sleep this week so i'm in full rage mode. Yup, sleep before I ... nvm... try to fight with a tree or something.

Tofu21 12:47, May 4, 2012 (UTC)

Thanks!

Anyways sorry for my long rambling reply 'cos I'm tired and unable to summarise.

Well, pick a way which will deliver the message and whichever way suits you better? 'Cos you're the more experienced admin who likely knows what to do.

Tofu21 13:09, May 4, 2012 (UTC)

Okay, just read the new Youtube messages from me.Sorry for my bad english but I'm in a rush too.

Anyways, the other admins(Stefano, Baam25th) might proceed on a conversation about formatting, subset character pages standards in a "Conversation thread" in Batoto. I suggested that we do it in a thread in the TOG forums but Baam suggested it be done in there.

So when you really have time to, trust me... get in there. I'll try to delay the conversation.

Tofu21 05:27, May 5, 2012 (UTC)

How about ForgivenUnderGrace ?

TheUltimateKingZahard? LOL...

ZahardKnowsBest ?

Ahhhh I don't know... pick something you like best. If not, I'll come up with something silly. BananaFrittersZahard

DancingCoconutZahard

Tofu21 06:57, May 5, 2012 (UTC)

Do what you want... =P :)

Pick the one you like, not the one I like, man.

What visionary? o.O

Tofu21 07:03, May 5, 2012 (UTC)

I know, I responded to you on there.

Tofu21 07:18, May 5, 2012 (UTC)

sorry for a late reply :)
sorry for the lateness Exams and social pressure had me MIA-ed for some time now.

As for Part II i think this is the best possible part II ever, most of the part II s after time skip has the characters changed only when powers are concerned but the character maturity and variety stays the same its like NOTHING happened i enterd a time chamber and trained in the mean time.

TOG managed to break that cliche, Baam took a paradigm shift. Indicating a lot of character change within him

this is sth i like

Now Love is somebody who i dun like particularly, he is just too preppy and snobish

Eagrely waiting for the next chap Baam vs Love starts :XD

nd as usual Its nice to read you ~LightHouse

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Seriosly there is a break?! man thats a sad news to imbibe, the ending was an epic cliff hanger

so what do you think will happen? My prognosis goes like this

Baam and love will fight obviously Baam will be weaker but he is a frigging shisnso tech copy cat so every fatal move Love throws at him makes him weaker physically yet strengthen his shinso tech arsenal.

All in all i see love being the dominant one but i think in the end the admistrator will intervene before a winner is officially decided

Its nice to read you ~LightHouse

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Dont you think the question of who the stronger one was, was answered during the shinso gauging test?

i mean Baam used a tech and got like 10/100 K+ or sth where as Love didnt even use a tech rather just smacked it with raw shinsoo and got 1 M +

Its nice to read you ~LightHouse

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Erm wait... wait, wait... where is it written as proof Headon chooses irregulars? He chooses the Regulars and it isn't written that he chose Baam. It's written in a chapter that the Tower chose Viole and by passing the First Guardian's test, he was teleported to the next floor. It's true that Headon has the power though, to decide who can be teleported onto the next Floor even if they're not chosen by the Tower.

And noooo you don't force open the doors at all. >_<;; In ch 58, it said Urek Mazino opened the doors. He did not force it open. I only wrote that it was forced open 'cos I'm still checking... apparently, someone in the forums said they were "forced open" but so far, there's no evidence in the chapters. And i'm still checking.

And we don't know if Phantaminum is an Irregular. He could've just teleported onto a certain Floor of the Tower. He doesn't need to take the Guardian's tests if he's indeed an Exis. In this Tower or another Tower, he probably already became a god.

It's not a good idea to categorize them until much more info is known. Whatever, i don't really care anyways.

Tofu21 11:47, May 10, 2012 (UTC)

I'll take a better look later on...

There're still other things to add to that page... like how before Zahard, you didn't need a contract to use shinsoo in the Inner or Outer Towers. So, it's most likely, the entire Tower, amount of shinsoo you need to use = well, need to work that out... the precise sentences, that is.

But it wasn't unregulated shinsoo 'cos there were people living there and you can't kill the irregulars by mindlessly screwing around with the shinsoo density.

After his arrival, you need contract for inner and outer towers. But... middle area? possibly no?

Oh screw this, i'll think over everything when I come back. -__-;;

Tofu21 03:26, May 11, 2012 (UTC)

Not sure if you've already read it but I left you a PM on the Batoto forums.

Tofu21 10:57, May 18, 2012 (UTC)

abt the lateest chaps
seems that Love is in for a surprise this time. Baam stance for the punch was really well timed. Love was pretty much aghasted :D

Nice to read you~ LightHouse 15:20, May 18, 2012 (UTC)

nah i recon Love is gonna give baam some more trouble

we havnt seen what Love is capable of yet LightHouse 09:16, May 19, 2012 (UTC)

Hi Lord, I know you're busy but what happened to the three lords page?

http://towerofgod.wikia.com/wiki/Three_Lords

From the delete log, it appears you moved the "3 lords" page to "Three lords" page.

However, from the logs for the "Three lords" page, it seems... Urek redirected Three Lords to 3 Lords. So, there's a redirect loop going on.

Move log: 21:54, February 26, 2012 Urek Mazino (Talk | contribs | block) moved Three Lords to 3 Lords over redirect

Tofu21 04:42, May 24, 2012 (UTC)

Urek, the mighty irregular has fixed it.

Tofu21 13:07, May 24, 2012 (UTC)

Is that so. You know, I can't exactly trust anyone who says they could read korean, especially not over the internet. It also doesn't exactly help you that you apparently never translated anything. But that is just me being suspicious.

Just for the sake of accuracy however, it would be best if we could confirm what you say by someone else.

And if you feel offended by how I phrased myself there, I apologize, that was me being annoyed (because seemingly magical knowledge was brought up, you know)

Hey, go read your PM box in Batoto please... "copy + paste".

Tofu21 12:41, May 29, 2012 (UTC)

Considering in 3 weeks the Tower gets shaken I agree! &quot;I am Brutalitops! The Magician...Magic user baby, whaaat?&quot; 01:19, June 4, 2012 (UTC)

Zahard Eblem
Try it out as the background, if it looks good I'm sure we could keep it :) Wouldn't be hard to beat our current one... which is a bit outdated for a wiki like this one is now. So long live Zahard!

User:Baam25th Whatever you desire, we have a page on it... Tower of God Wiki 01:28, June 4, 2012 (UTC)

Zahard is here!
Don't put it back! The background looks AWESOME!

If people don't like the current format, you could always change the page color (transluscent black right now) back to a lighter color, but do keep the Zahard eblem.

Anyhow, if you ask me the new stuff looks great, we'll see how users react and maybe a few tweaks might be in order... I'm pretty sure they'll like it too though :D

User:Baam25th Whatever you desire, we have a page on it... Tower of God Wiki 05:25, June 5, 2012 (UTC)

Maybe Leo-Ro... I was thinking of featuring Shinsoo, but I think you're right about the old characters. Either would be good... have you suggested this to Urek and Tofu? If they like it, then we may as well go ahead and feature it :) User:Baam25th Whatever you desire, we have a page on it... Tower of God Wiki 00:14, June 6, 2012 (UTC)

About ze theme
Zahard, it is unfortunate, especially because I like it but ze background needs changing, because there's been reported editing problems, issues reading things and it making the eyes sore >_< &quot;I am Brutalitops! The Magician...Magic user baby, whaaat?&quot; 02:10, June 6, 2012 (UTC)

I have no idea. &quot;I am Brutalitops! The Magician...Magic user baby, whaaat?&quot; 11:06, June 6, 2012 (UTC)

About the theme, I temporarily fixed part of it but let's be very careful with making changes..

'Cos of issues like monitor brightness and graphics card/chip settings, it's best to be very careful with the colour schemes.

That's why on most sites which require heavy reading, for background, they use white or light blue or beige or some shade of grey, that makes the text readable. And text is always either black or white or gray or something readable when used with the background. That's 'cos it's the working "colour combo" that's been used and proven to work, for a long time. I'm sure you've noticed that, right?

It was a nice try, though. =P I'm going back to Monobook layout for the time being. And I threw in a temporary image... so the layout doesn't look so plain. Feel free to replace it. :P

Tofu21 14:21, June 6, 2012 (UTC)

This new background is good ^.^ &quot;I am Brutalitops! The Magician...Magic user baby, whaaat?&quot; 23:32, June 6, 2012 (UTC)

Ah nice... :)

Tofu21 03:53, June 7, 2012 (UTC)

Hmmm... I wonder if we can change default text size to slightly larger. I know it looks nicer this way but when reading chunks of text, 1 to 2 sizes larger wouldn't kill us. =P

And since there's no doubt, I will soon put the chosen system up somewhere... it can be debated by people. I don't care.. oh crap, ugh... I'm gonna be sick, i think...

And best of luck for your exams, you better do well. =P Oops, sorry... forgot I'm just an admin and not your virtual parent.

Tofu21 09:50, June 7, 2012 (UTC)

Hi, GoDai left the following message on my talk page. Please read and think about it, and then tell him.. I and urek are currently discussing in The Company discussion. To summarise, it seems a good suggestion. However, since few users know Korean, it's unknown if some users will resort to pasting random korean words, just for fun. But Urek thinks his ability will be very useful, anyways. Btw, Fudgenouget already does most of those chapter summaries and usually, within 24 to 48 hours of raw release.

And btw, if you can really read Korean and translate, it's about time we get people to summarise the untranslated public blog entries(not the hidden blog where most of the entries are already translated). xD I think we may still be missing out on information about Positions and other things.


 * Hi I'm new here, although I participate in a few other wikis from time to time. I'm Korean so hopefully I can help out around here. I was wondering, can we have a Korean name placed in character infoboxes similar to how manga wikis would list the actual names in Japanese? Also, some other wikis often have the original term in parantheses and in italics after a specific term; similar to something like "Jyu Viole Grace (쥬 비올레 그레이스, Jyu Viole Grace)". I personally think having something like that so the original Korean can be checked could be useful, and I wanted your opinion. Thanks! GoDai 07:27, June 12, 2012 (UTC)

Tofu21 13:59, June 12, 2012 (UTC)

wished Baam used some of HIS own move yet
The fight went well nd as predicted, had me hooked up but i wish Baam would have used some move of his own that we didnt see b4.LightHouse 12:32, June 12, 2012 (UTC)

ya i agree, i think we ll get to see some more stuffs in the upcoming fight of Baam vs Yeon(drugged), devil guy,Lurker LightHouse 05:21, June 13, 2012 (UTC)

Tuesday Translations
Sure, although I will have to do them when I am free, so I may be late often. Also, how much of the chapter would need to be translated? Over at the Naruto wikia, our translator gives us more of a rundown of the new terms and important speech parts, and then we ask him about stuff he hasn't answered. I could leave something like that on my talk page, and other users could ask me about more stuff in the chapter? GoDai 17:32, June 12, 2012 (UTC)

Ah, I see. Makes sense. No problem, except like I said, I may be a day or so late quite often :P GoDai 04:55, June 13, 2012 (UTC)

Erm, what "formal"? I'm confused. =P

Tofu21 14:13, June 13, 2012 (UTC)

Also, if possible, can you like get the newly re-translated Top 1 - 15 Ranker profiles from The Company? I don't have the time or energy to key in all of that text. Or whatever is available...

Thanks! =D

Tofu21 14:41, June 13, 2012 (UTC)

K it seems GoDal wants to create a page...


 * Hmm I see. It's because I plan to directly translate the page and sorta leave an English record of it so there's no hassle if a page becomes over-edited and some of the original info may become lost (which means we would have to review the original Korean many more times than is necessary). It'll be sorta like how other wikis have like, a page with a directly translated form of an official databook or such (Over at the Naruto wikia, we had something like this http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/User:ShounenSuki/Third_Databook_Translations - although it contains all this info, it's just for reference, and there are separate pages for each of the data entries, and this one is just used as a method of verification for those separate pages, as not all Naruto wikia people actually have the databook. So I translated SIU's notes on shinsoo manipulation, and although a lot of the info is already on the Shinsoo page, the info I translated could be on a page of this sort, with a bunch of other translated notes by SIU. I mean, it might end up as walls of text but it'll still be worthwhile, and we also have Ctrl+F. Of course, I'll put down a link to the original Korean page after each entry. Also, about the power/wave/force surging/flowing in, I'll check out the original Korean chapter soon. Thanks! GoDai 00:13, June 15, 2012 (UTC)

Tofu21 01:17, June 15, 2012 (UTC)

Well... GoDai has already gone ahead and made the page. LOL.

But well, I think it should be okay. Unless some user decides to vandalise the page. Ah, then I'll protect it so unregistered users can't edit that page but not now... =P

Tofu21 11:19, June 15, 2012 (UTC)

No, I don't mean that... *laughs* I mean... like any page that gets vandalized too often, a page has to be protected.

Well, how do you rate his translations, so far?

Tofu21 11:27, June 15, 2012 (UTC)

Yeah, the translation was done late this week, the cleans are done, translation is done, blog post was put up recently so I'll grab that when it's been QC'd, typesetting is pretty much all that's left. &quot;I am Brutalitops! The Magician...Magic user baby, whaaat?&quot; 11:51, June 15, 2012 (UTC)

Chestnut got sick of translating this week it looks like, Grumpy did a translation for the first time in weeks :O &quot;I am Brutalitops! The Magician...Magic user baby, whaaat?&quot; 12:21, June 15, 2012 (UTC)

Grumpy usually does a QC, but this week he translated the blog post. &quot;I am Brutalitops! The Magician...Magic user baby, whaaat?&quot; 12:26, June 15, 2012 (UTC)

Yeah it looks about the same. &quot;I am Brutalitops! The Magician...Magic user baby, whaaat?&quot; 12:31, June 15, 2012 (UTC)

Yeah, although it is nice to look at the work of other translators and compare them. &quot;I am Brutalitops! The Magician...Magic user baby, whaaat?&quot; 12:39, June 15, 2012 (UTC)

I prefer TC's simply because I'm used to their terminology, and it gets checked so grammatically it makes sense, Northern's don't sometimes. &quot;I am Brutalitops! The Magician...Magic user baby, whaaat?&quot; 12:46, June 15, 2012 (UTC)

It's fairly great. &quot;I am Brutalitops! The Magician...Magic user baby, whaaat?&quot; 12:56, June 15, 2012 (UTC)

I'll give it a read :) adding Korean names is such a pain but I get edits so yay also I suck at sourcing >_< &quot;I am Brutalitops! The Magician...Magic user baby, whaaat?&quot; 13:14, June 15, 2012 (UTC)

Yeah btw this source GoDai provided has some interesting info, the number of princesses, the ranks of the 13 Months Series weapons, the owners, it says GARAM WAS KILLED BY ZAHARD :O although I am using google translator, Evan may have been ranked 50th at a point, also that Enne killed another Eurasia princess that had a 13 Month this is crazy! &quot;I am Brutalitops! The Magician...Magic user baby, whaaat?&quot; 13:21, June 15, 2012 (UTC)

Also Karaka (that FUG mentioned by Love) is now one of the reigning devils in FUG &quot;I am Brutalitops! The Magician...Magic user baby, whaaat?&quot; 13:23, June 15, 2012 (UTC)

It appears to say that Viole is merely a self proclaimed slayer/slayer candidate too :O &quot;I am Brutalitops! The Magician...Magic user baby, whaaat?&quot; 13:24, June 15, 2012 (UTC)

I've read a lot of this stuff before too, but never seen a source but here it is http://cafe.naver.com/inutero3334/62461 &quot;I am Brutalitops! The Magician...Magic user baby, whaaat?&quot; 13:33, June 15, 2012 (UTC)

Oh yes but there's so much info! &quot;I am Brutalitops! The Magician...Magic user baby, whaaat?&quot; 13:38, June 15, 2012 (UTC)

Hi, what do you think of this? Do you think it is wrong? Also, I do not accept Baam has complete Shinsoo resistance... because of certain things(he got injured by Love's Wonsulsa blast and he might've been wounded by the Shinsoo density in the sea, when he was pushed by Rachel). It's something I wrote on the Shinsoo REsistance page and was hoping to get feedback on but apparently, you and Urek missed out on it.

It seems that extreme courage, willpower, desire and determination might sometimes allow a budding Irregular(unknown if non-Irregulars can do the same) to overcome all odds and charge into an area of very high Shinsoo density. They might not always be able to repeat this as Baam emerged unscathed from the area where the Steel eel lived but was later, injured by Love's Wonsul blast. The density/viscocity of the blast was probably far lower compared to the former, which could probably restrict, injure or even maim certain High Rankers. This feat can be compared to "an old and feeble grandmother completely lifting a car to save her grandchild". An average-sized car weighs 900 kg to 2000 kg(approx. 2000 lbs to 4400 lbs).

Tofu21 18:25, June 15, 2012 (UTC)

Layout
I'm on it. :D

User:Baam25th Whatever you desire, we have a page on it... Tower of God Wiki 01:34, June 16, 2012 (UTC)

Welp, trying out a new background. Like it?

Not sure about what to do with the layout yet, will work on that.

User:Baam25th Whatever you desire, we have a page on it... Tower of God Wiki 01:47, June 16, 2012 (UTC)

Name issues
I was editing Korean names in the wikia when I came across several issues, both major and minor. The other adins directed me to you. I understand some names are just being used for consistency, but some others seem to have slightly bigger issues. No rush, please take your time in answering these questions when you are free. Otherwise, thanks a bunch! GoDai 07:27, June 16, 2012 (UTC)
 * Ship Leesoo and Yeon Yihwa both have "Lee/Yi" (이) in their names, so shouldn't we just use one? SIU himself wrote "Sib Yi Soo" after all. Not saying that's the best English form of the name, but you know, consistency.
 * "Phantom" would be written as "팬텀", with a "ㅐ". Phantaminum's name is written with a "ㅔ" instead, which implies "penta" as in pentagon (펜타곤). So I believe Pentaminum would actually be more accurate?
 * Some names are slightly wrong. Aleksai Amigochaz's page is incorrectly titled. Leon 3 should be Liron 3 (리론 3). Palgyon should probably be Palgyeon or Palgyun (팔견). Yung Changsoo is actually Yeon Changsoo (연창수). I think Bek Philip Poker should be Back Flip Poker (백 플립 포커). Blak Statil should be Block Stangtil (블락 스탕틸).
 * Seeing how Androssi's name is actually written as 엔도르시, I think her name should be Andorthy instead. SIU himself once wrote "Andorthy Jahad' in English, and even if not, her name should be something like Andorssi.

Ah, I see. Well, it's true that SIU's English capabilities aren't the best. I think Urek plans to add redirects some time in the futue so I guess I'll leave most of them for now. Thanks! GoDai 07:44, June 16, 2012 (UTC)

K it's removed. I assume the Shinsoo Resistance page is more acceptable now?

Tofu21 12:57, June 16, 2012 (UTC)

K, will add it to the Contents page then. That was why I only linked to it from Viole's page... the rest? None... because I was still working out everything.

Tofu21 13:04, June 16, 2012 (UTC)

I changed the color of the header and buttons like you recommended, looks pretty awesome now :)

I'll also see if I can coordinate the sections headers for the main page, and maybe change the graphic at the top.

User:Baam25th Whatever you desire, we have a page on it... Tower of God Wiki 17:48, June 16, 2012 (UTC)

Just to let you know, I put this on Androssi's, Rachel's and Akryung's pages:

It's not mentioned or shown anywhere in the comic that she passed the Barrier and the Door tests. However, only those who've "passed early" are exempted from a test(Hide and Seek game). And the other way of not taking a test is to be injured(disqualified) or killed. And to cheat a test(no need to take/pass the Barrier and Door tests), she'd to meet Koon Agero Agnis so her team could hide in the Manbarondenna. So her team had to pass these tests to take part in the Crown Game.

Tofu21 21:09, June 16, 2012 (UTC)

Oops, actually it should be "chosen by Koon Agero Agnis to be his allies or whatever", so she could hide in his briefcase but that'll be added later.

If that's the case, then Lero-Ro and possibly the other testing Admins would've strongly objected. They did have to test everyone, in order to guage if they were skillful enough to take the Position Test. Don't forget each and every test, is designed to determine if someone is worthy of climbing the Tower(Rest Part 1) and also, to filter out those who threaten the Tower. Without using tests to filter out such people, they wouldn't know. And this is especially since there was an "Irregular".

Plus, the tests wouldn't take too long seeing as it's only 1 team. Probably 15 to 30 mins, if the tests were even held at different locations.

However, I will edit to reflect the "for and against" arguments.

Tofu21 23:20, June 16, 2012 (UTC)

Wait, what are you talking about? Are you saying they took the tests? Or are you saying they didn't take the tests because they didn't meet up with Koon and his team?

Btw, Rachel is an Irregular... it's been completely confirmed by 2 sources, implying Headon was lying. So why are we using "unchosen ones" unless we want to assume some of the Irregulars aren't really Irregulars(Baam, Phataminum, etc.)? Or are you talking about them being classified as "unchosen ones"?

Tofu21 23:33, June 16, 2012 (UTC)

Okay... about Baam... the doors closed after Rachel entered the Tower. (ch 76, i think).

So he'd to open them and okay, he is an Irregular because he can request to take an Irregular's test from the Guardian, remember?

Ah okay... well... I will edit to reflect both parts of the argument then. Yes, that's what I was saying, dude... lol. Androssi's group didn't meet Koon Agero Agnis before, so she couldn't have "cheated" the tests(if she took them) because she needs to meet him, and she has to be chosen to enter his bag.

Tofu21 23:56, June 16, 2012 (UTC)

About Phanta: don't know how he got in but..... if he really can teleport himself and so on, he might've been the only one who managed to force his way in. By teleporting himself into the ___ floor of the Tower.

Or perhaps, the Tower recognised his authority and opened its' doors to let him in.

Tofu21 23:58, June 16, 2012 (UTC)

Actually it doesn't matter: you only enter the Tower by opening its' doors. The Guardian of the 2nd Floor called Baam "one who opened the door himself"(ch58).

Because besides Rachel and Baam, no one else managed to get inside. Besides all these people(Zahard, urek, etc.), no one else got to open its' door.

That's all.Well, we can leave the unchosen word inside but I'm unsure if that will spark off editing changes to Viole's, Rachel's and so on's pages, since people seem to conflict so much about "Irregulars".

Tofu21 03:24, June 17, 2012 (UTC)

Actually, things can even more terribly confusing when you think about a few more possibilies:

1) Some of the Tower inhabitants who were living there, when Zahard and the 10 Great Warriors entered, may have descended from Tower outsiders.

2) it is even possible Masceth is from outside the Tower.

So, I'm going to emphasise heavily that "There are 2 types of Tower outsiders chosen to take part in the Testing system". It's only SIU who can do that to us... *sighs*

I mean... even Rachel: she was one chosen by the Tower and she opened its' doors and she's called an Irregular. But 'cos of headon's doors, she's probably unaware she opened the doors herself. Or not... oh man... i hate this. T_T

Tofu21 03:52, June 17, 2012 (UTC)

It's really not too bad... though you might want to adjust the transparency a little, so the "shading" is less obvious? :)

Otherwise, it looks kinda cool.

Tofu21 11:23, June 17, 2012 (UTC)

Yeah it looks good ^.^ &quot;I am Brutalitops! The Magician...Magic user baby, whaaat?&quot; 13:25, June 17, 2012 (UTC)