Talk:Enryu/@comment-26854521-20160715091728

"@Rachellover: Yes, I referred to the ToG Sobriquet there, but the argument was about whether Enryu killed the Guardian before or after becoming a Ranker. And the distinction between ToG Sobriquet and nickname (if we simplify it) shouldn't have any impact on that argument; its importance to the argument was the "when" rather than the "what"."

Well, that is the exact opposite of what you were arguing in the part I quoted. You were saying that Enryu killing the Guardian while climbing is the theory wiith the fewest assumptions. When it actually only works if a) his Sobriquet changed, but the change isn't documented in the profile, while the act of receiving a nickname for the deed was actually mentioned (very unlikely) and  SIU chose to use a different word for Sobriquet, while still meaning the same thing or b)he has more than one Sobriquet, but the other one isn't mentioned (seems also very unlikely, since other people have 2 and this would also make you wonder why he didn't use the same term for 'Sobriquet').



The 2nd part I've already addressed, In short, Sobriquet is not what SIU went with, but the translators. In English the word sobriquet isn't used that often, but it's actual meaning is and the most popular words are nickname and alias. In the world of TOG, nicknames or code names obviously have their place, too. We know some FUG people use them (while they also refer to each other with Sobriquets, YHS, etc.), we know WingTree uses them and there's probably many more. When you go and look for a translation of sobriquet, you are not likely to get a trasnlation of the word with the same usage (here similar rarity of usage), but rather the most commonly used word, with the same meaning. So since nicknames/code names are common, if he wants to have a stronger meaning behind it and not be misunderstood, he has to use a word that is not as common.

All of this still doesn't give a conclusion as to when he killed the Guardian, though. There's simply nothing to go on, except for assumptions as to why he stopped climbing/being active when he reached the Top. And as I've already mentioned it seems a lot more plausible to me, that he went inactive after killing the Guardian, instead of killing it then reaching the Top and then going inactive, with Headon being unable to find him while climbing ~90 Floors (if Headon is/was truly looking for him).

