Talk:Irregular/@comment-5135787-20170127220316/@comment-26484417-20170128153856

Please, re-read what I had written; what was the purpose of the techniques in your examples vs. the purpose of Lero-ro's barrier on 2F. The former are meant to restrain, the latter is meant to simulate higher (about 30F) density Shinsoo environment. Lero-ro--according to what he said--was only testing their Shinsoo resistance (or their luck of being born with sufficient level thereof), so it stands to reason that both the initial push as well as the barrier (it's possible if not likely that they are the same thing) merely tested Shinsoo resistance. In contrast, the examples you list aren't tests of Shinsoo resistance, they are restraining techniques, and--for all we know--Shinsoo resistance alone is never enough to deal with those.

Next, Lero-ro--by his own admission--wasn't using strength of a Ranker Light Bearer during the 2F test; even when chastising that one guy, he only resorted to common level of ~30F Shinsoo. Also, probably not even Androssi or Baam could pass Ranker-grade barrier with their 2F power.

Finally, Koon's strength has been shown to be quite well beyond the norm of his current climbing stage. So what makes you think that Koon's technique on 35F (the situation with Rachel) is weaker than Lero-ro's push / barrier that was supposed to simulate Shinsoo common to ~30F? And this is assuming the push / barrier was as powerful as the chastisement Lero-ro used on the big guy, because--for all we know--it was even weaker than that; after all, you don't use weaker / easier exercise for punishment.