User talk:Urek Mazino/Urek's 2012 Messages

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Hi, welcome to Tower of God Wiki! Thanks for your edit to the File:Ms ice stawberry.png page.

Please leave a message on my talk page if I can help with anything! -- Baam25th (Talk) 07:38, January 11, 2012

Hey!
Hey newbie! (No offence intended...) Great to see a new user on the wiki! I need some more help, none of the other users are around right now... Welcome to the Tower of God Wiki! Ask me about anything if you want help while the others are gone! :D

"All the riches, beauty and mysticism, everything in the world -- no, even more existed up there." Shinsoo Blast 500 08:09, January 11, 2012 (UTC)

*drumroll*
Hello Urek.

Firstly, next time you leave a message, please write your username afterwards so I don't have to scroll throuhg all the recent edits to find out who it is :)

Yes, I am the only Admin around right now. The creator of the Wiki, StefanoRyuzaki, basically left it mostly in my hands (there is one other admin, but hasn't been around for months). This isn't that big of a wiki, and so I've been managing okay for now. Other admins may turn up in the future, Stefano told me to contact him if there was anyone that needed promoting.

Anyway, you seem to have been busy recently :) Thanks :D. User:Baam25th :3 cats. Tower of God Wiki. Everything Else. 01:48, February 18, 2012 (UTC) Baam25th

Oh
Yep, goes to show SIU changing his spelling all the time XD

"All the riches, beauty and mysticism, everything in the world -- no, even more existed up there." Shinsoo Blast 500 20:45, February 28, 2012 (UTC)

Ah
== Ah, sorry, I'll get Baam25th to change it back. However, I'll just quickly justify my action. I just thought that the name should be what the character believes it to be. Thats why I made the two templates, so he could still be known by Baam for Part II. ==

But I'll ask our admin to change it back :D

-- Zahard

"All the riches, beauty and mysticism, everything in the world -- no, even more existed up there." Zahard 10:56, March 30, 2012 (UTC)

Drumroll...
By the wikia powers vested in me... I hereby dub you... admin!

I recently got bureaucrat rights, and so I can promote people now... I think it's about time we had some new admins, so I promoted you and Zahard. Have fun :D

User:Baam25th Whatever you desire, we have a page on it... Tower of God Wiki 22:24, March 31, 2012 (UTC)

Hi, thanks for the advice. I'll keep that in mind next time when I edit in stuff from Mangafox. Btw, I don't mean to be rude but what did you do to my talk page? It's completely gone! o.0 Tofu21 14:14, April 7, 2012 (UTC)

Well, I know MangaFox has a bad reputation but I didn't know that some of their TOG blog translations were that bad. You mean that's what other translators mentioned, huh? And thanks for fixing my Talk page. Tofu21 14:49, April 7, 2012 (UTC)14:48, April 7, 2012 (UTC)

Good freaking hell, that does sound like a complete mess though. Too bad... some of the info on that MF link looked quite interesting, especially the one about Koon Agero being based on Kun Aguero, some football player. Tofu21 14:59, April 7, 2012 (UTC)

You know what? I think I or someone else should ask for confirmation for some of those "translations" in the Q & A thread on Batoto. I don't know any Korean and I'd rather spare myself the grinding effort in randomly "guessing" the meanings.

Also, yep!!! :D My Talk page has no repeated glitches yet so far... btw, please give some warning the next time you test out your irregular powers on someone's talk page. :P We're super lucky nothing grew horns and escaped. xD Tofu21 15:31, April 7, 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for your advice but I think I've always stuck to internal links. I find using external links to be a real pain. Tofu21 09:37, April 9, 2012 (UTC)

It's no big deal plus I appreciate reminders as I haven't touched a wiki in ages.

Erm, some of them were really minor edits. Even though I figured out how to adjust the page layout in a way, I'm still having problems with getting the layout of the pictures to not look so ugly. Like: Nya Nia's page.

I think I'll put the 2nd picture ... in the Trivia section instead, like I'd originally intended to.

No, I just edited Nya Nia's page and never created it.

Btw, this is a dumb question. How do you get the "Table of contents" infobox that displays on some of the characters' page? Do we have to like remove the "Stub" category?

Okay, I suspect it's the admins who've the ability to add in the Contents box. I think... Tofu21 10:29, April 9, 2012 (UTC)

Ah well, will just let the system add it in over time, then... Tofu21 10:44, April 9, 2012 (UTC)

Nevermind, I figured out how to get the "contents" table... =) Just have minimum of 4 "sub-categories" and the contents table will auto-form. Tofu21 15:25, April 9, 2012 (UTC)

Anyways, I'll stop editing soon for today as I've been spamming the wiki way too much. xD Hopefully, most of my edits are okay... =P

Seeking some advice on whether that last section of info looked a bit out of place. You know, the book by Ashul Edwaru. Should I put it into a new article?

http://towerofgod.wikia.com/wiki/Shinsoo

Forget what I just said... I took out the info when i realised it was a duplicate of info on that article. Tofu21 11:28, April 10, 2012 (UTC)

Btw, the below 2 pages are the same:

http://towerofgod.wikia.com/wiki/Zahard_Family (already removed all the contents. feel free to look at the history if you want to. should be deleted or redirected.)

http://towerofgod.wikia.com/wiki/Zahard (I already merged with most of the content from the above article.)

Sorry but I've no idea where to post this. ^^;; Tofu21 15:05, April 11, 2012 (UTC)

Ah no, it's okay... :) Do take your time to read this page for the latest developments. But in short, yeah both the pages are going to stay.

http://towerofgod.wikia.com/wiki/User_blog:Tofu21/No_idea_where_to_post_this..._but_this_page_needs_to_be_deleted.

Take your time, the page won't run away. Tofu21 10:27, April 13, 2012 (UTC)

Really, a lot of thanks..
Really, a lot of thanks... though now I feel somewhat evil. =P And feel like ... doing something evil to the main page... kukukuku. :D

Tofu21 08:09, April 17, 2012 (UTC)

Haha I'll think about it. And also, do you think this page is too complicated? Badly written? Zahard Empire.

Tofu21 08:16, April 17, 2012 (UTC)

Ah well, btw... not too sure if it's very factually accurate. ><;; Also, do you happen to remember if there was ever a part in the comic which mentioned that "Zahard is like everyone's father" or something like that? I'd add that in the Deification section but see, I'm not too sure.

Tofu21 10:10, April 17, 2012 (UTC)

Well, thanks... I think the admin part will be okay. Though good job undoing the edits that rascal did.. XD

Also, added in FUG and Wingtree to the Zahard Empire page which is turning out to be massive. Just how complicated does SIU intend to make things? Tofu21 09:23, April 19, 2012 (UTC)

sighs* I hope so. Also, if you don't like my edits to Viole's page, feel free to undo them. I'm also expecting some massive plot twists which will... leave everyone speculating for a long time. xD Tofu21 10:28, April 19, 2012 (UTC)

Haha... it's SIU and you know he likes to be evil, right? Tofu21 10:41, April 19, 2012 (UTC)

And if anything, I can't wait for Wangnan to awaken though it definitely isn't something like "the ring is sealing his powers". Most likely, he has to reach a certain stage in terms of strength, agility or some other attribute before his powers slowly awaken.

Tofu21 10:45, April 19, 2012 (UTC)

Hopefully, but SIU has always created main characters who're rather weak but who possess certain attributes. Wangnan hasn't given up yet even though he's probably failed the 20F like at least 24 to 36 times. I think it was mentioned like "dozens of times" so yep. xD

Tofu21 10:51, April 19, 2012 (UTC)

Perhaps both of them have... since it's not always you meet a tough opponent who goes easy on you and who tries not to hurt you too much, like Viole. As in: even if you survive, you may not be in good shape to take the next test. Tofu21 11:53, April 19, 2012 (UTC)

More Talking :P
Yep after all, there's a strong likelihood some of the regulars will enjoy the thrill and art of violence and murder.

And also, poor Viole... he's gonna be "soldered" to most or all of the people in the Postlogue soon. =P The FUG's "legendary pokemon" they've captured, is about to make new friends! Well, someone in the Batoto forums, "fist of rage" called him that.

Ahh and if you ask me, the Purple Prince is likely SIU trolling us... Wangnan can't possibly go up, right? He has almost no fighting abilities, right? xD And one is called Prince and the other is "I am Prince" spelled backwards. =P

Tofu21 12:14, April 19, 2012 (UTC)

Who is what and what?

Sorry, never watched Pokemon in all my life.

Tofu21 13:31, April 19, 2012 (UTC)

Ahhh, I kinda get you but Viole is far from sadistic. In actual fact, if he turned really sadistic and cruel, I'd probably suspect he's kinda snapped. After all, he's just gloomy and cold right now 'cos of all the problems in Season 1 and 'cos of many other reasons. Thank gods SIU hasn't made him become gloomy and cold simply 'cos he's now opposing Zahard(so he must be ebil). I bet SIU is having so much fun trolling all the readers who think he's gone down that path.

Tofu21 14:28, April 19, 2012 (UTC)

Yes, SIU really is doing a good job of leaving us hints while still having fun with that stereotype. xD Especially the way he drew Viole's faces in that chapter where Viole declared he didn't need any teammates. I thought: damn man, was that badass.

And on another note, now I know how IP ban works on this wiki. =P Sorry for being harsh but I doubt none of the other admins have all day to catch users for messing around with a page.

Tofu21 14:50, April 19, 2012 (UTC)

LMAO... yep, everyone's badass. Even Miseng will probably become badass one day. =P


 * sighs* I think it's annoying, that's all. And how dare they do it on the sly. I didn't even know that page had been edited until I'd checked it.

I hope she will be able to take her down and not spend time crying. I doubt that though... Miseng likely didn't make it to the 20F just by crying, man. And this test is probably to showcase everyone's abilities by forcing them to defend themselves and so on. Tofu21 15:05, April 19, 2012 (UTC)

Well, besides that, I'd also like to see how shinsoo factors into scout and other positions. Damn am I so hoping Miseng won't be a scout, just like Sunwoo Nare. I can't see her as a spear bearer or fisherman though.

Yeah there's also that possibility that she uses items too. After all, Nya nia... may be a scout and he also has those ears. And Ja Wangnan does seem like a scout too 'cos he uses bombs to provide cover for the team and as a smoke screen.

Oh btw if she really likes snacks and maybe instant food, she can go bond with a certain someone. =P

Tofu21 15:42, April 19, 2012 (UTC)

Also, I decided to add a note Urek's Power and abilities section. I'm getting tired of seeing "It's Urek who can create life using shinsoo" and I think, directly alerting people that it's a mistranslation will probably put a stop to it. Sure, she and Yu Han Sung can go buddy up but ah, that probably will never happen. He's the "submerged fish" and he'll probably stay hidden until it's time for him to surface.

Tofu21 00:57, April 20, 2012 (UTC)

If that happens, Love will be bounced around like a broken rubber ball. It won't even be a fight at all. Ahh damn... I wonder what Yu Han Sung's ranking is as a High Ranker and I suspect it's quite high since he was said to have shocked the Vice Commander of RED.

Tofu21 01:06, April 20, 2012 (UTC)

It makes total sense 'cos he likely belonged to or was affiliated with the FUG before he received the title of High Ranker. And then, he must have rejected the title so he could spend time looking for "gems" among the countless test-takers, as Testing Director.

Anyways, I wonder if he's still on the Testing Floor and who among the present cast, apart from Viole, has met him.

He's too awesome, man... and hopefully he survives till the end of the comic. Though I doubt that since it's likely heading towards a revolution or if not, a war and people will probably die.

Tofu21 01:19, April 20, 2012 (UTC)

Well, he's too wily and crafty to die quickly. I was talking about him dying during a war or revolution, actually.

Damnit I know SIU must be laughing at everyone who's eagerly waiting for news of team 1. He just loves trolling us all. =P

Ugh, I'm super curious about everyone: Rak, Agero, Rachel, Hatsu, Anak, Androssi and so on...

Also, thanks for changing the words... on that viole page.

Tofu21 12:29, April 20, 2012 (UTC)

I actually highly doubt that Anak is dead. 'Cos after the fiasco on the 2nd floor, I'm sure the RED has had very few chances left to either interfere in the tests or even target her, without pissing off the staff or Ruler.

After all, it's very likely Ren could only try that on the 2nd floor 'cos the Testing Director allowed him to. And think of the political chaos that'd ensue when the Ruler confronts his own Family and the Zahard Family for not informing him the RED(part of Zahard Family) has suddenly decided it's greater authority than him on his own Floor.

Aw crap, think I need to write that on the Zahard empire page too... *sighs*

Tofu21 12:44, April 20, 2012 (UTC)

RED punished by the Guardian? Probably by the King, I think. Guardian probably doesn't care about the division.

Well, Yuri Zahard had not much intention of killing Anak(for whatever reasons) and promised to return the Green April once she was strong enough(probably physically and maybe mentally) to bear the burden of carrying that weapon.

Btw, I finally found out where the "son and daughter" of Zahard came from... It's from the ranking profiles and someone decided to "remove" that sentence from his Wiki page. Damnit, it took me so long to find that damn sentence(was hunting through the comic and then, got bored and stumbled across the forums and found out).

I really hope users will be much more careful when adding or removing information from the wiki.

Tofu21 03:47, April 21, 2012 (UTC)

Why do I have this sinking feeling Yuri Zahard will just suddenly jump down in front of Luslec, one day and nearly get herself slaughtered?

Tofu21 03:44, April 22, 2012 (UTC)

What's so bad about Baam being in the FUG? FUG or not, he'd still be miserable when fighters from the 10 families all come to claim his head, 'cos he's an irregular. And then, what happens when they target most of the people from group 1 as well?

Nah, I think... Baam as he is, can't lay a finger on Luslec or even Yuri Zahard(if he now hates her) and Urek? He might care or not. Depends on how much he actually likes Yuri.

And no, I doubt Luslec would kill Yuri Zahard 'cos she's not part of those who're perpetuating the Zahard Empire. It'd be stupid to piss off her grandmother when there are other ways to draw Yurin out without screwing over himself or the FUG. She's what? Rank 10?

He'd probably just avoid her attacks and then, kick her out or something.

Tofu21 04:26, April 22, 2012 (UTC)

Hah... depends on how much Yuri Zahard cares for her own family.

No doubt, most of those Great Families are full of politiking and all sorts of petty squabbles. And then, she might have had to contend too with her own parents using her for their own political goals.

Though if she really cares for her own grandmother, who knows what might happen... a fight to the death to defend her family against Baam?

I doubt they have killed any Family Heads yet since they're probably still gathering troops and formulating plans. They do have to be prepared to lose some members when the Ruling Class retaliates and I think they're far from ready.

Then again, they might be pulling off some undercover moves like sending some hot female/male to seduce someone in certain Families and milk them for information, before vanishing. Unlikely though, seeing as many of the characters in TOG are quite capable.

Tofu21 04:48, April 22, 2012 (UTC)

Well it's not weird but at least the settings and limitations filter out all the useless characters and gives everyone else something useful to do.

I don't mind useless as in comedy but often, welll... in fighting manga, they're not even that funny and are bland.

Also, did you notice that SIU likes to have the message of "don't give up"? I noticed it was even featured in Androssi's backstory, Baam's story and in many others' stories. It's like... he seems to enjoy having his characters go through hell and being grinded down by society/people around them, they finally make it out through determination, perseverance, faith in themselves and triumph. Makes sense since even all geniuses have to start somewhere.

Ah and why not?

Tofu21 10:18, April 22, 2012 (UTC)

Hmmm really? For me, it's quite realistic 'cos life is just like that for most humans. It's full of trials and problems and hurdles and so on... only most of us don't recognise our own efforts and try to put ourselves down for even reaching the top of the mountain or for even arriving at a stage of our life.

I think most people just don't value ourselves enough. Tofu21 11:12, April 22, 2012 (UTC)

Sorry I missed out on the small victories part but of course... Wangnan managed to pass the tests until the 20F, right? Same for Androssi and many others... =P They had victories, big and small.

I don't mean like brutally beating them down but of course, making through a lot of problems and also having something that brings a bit of happiness, joy and victory to your face. ^^;;;

Sorry, if anyone is gonna get crushed down like an insect all the time, I'm sure even Viole would just give up. Suffice to say, i think his instructors in the FUG may have tried to cheer him up a bit but he's ALMOST like a hopeless case. xP After all, you can't always instruct someone who's completely like out there "brooding" and looks more like a broken toy.

Ah and I really hope FUG will subvert the stereotype of being full of brooding, depressed, emotionally broken people who're on a suicidal quest to add themselves to the body count. =P

Oranges are good and tasty
Yep SIU seems to be subverting that stereotype of Viole so far so... I think he'll do the same thing for F.U.G. He basically presented this "dark, gloomy, villainish" atmosphere of Viole and slowly tore it down bit by bit. =P

Yeah he probably added the "dots" so it doesn't confuse people. I think it's official there's a real meaning behind the true names and I hope we see it soon.

Also, do you think Viole's "team"(whoever he ends up with) will meet Luslec before they become a Ranker or before this episode ends?

Tofu21 05:45, April 23, 2012 (UTC)

How did you know Luslec's profile will be included? Been talking to Chestnut or Grumpy? =P

Well, I suspect his appearance might be sooner, given that one of the episodes will be about Yu Han Sung and that's likely before Viole becomes Ranker.

Well, we also have someone else... IF Wangnan is really the true Prince and he really wants to usurp his father's power(and end era of 10 families)... it might just cause Viole to either abandon his goal and to drift towards Wangnan's methods to bring forth a new era or both of them might just join up together. Either way, whatever happens, i think someone from FUG might interfere if they find out. And maybe some people sent by the Ruling Class as well.

And then, we also have Yihwa. And Viole's old team.

Damn, does SIU love to make things confusing and complicated!

Tofu21 06:08, April 23, 2012 (UTC)

Oh right... I see.

Thanks for your hard work. ^^

Tofu21 07:19, April 23, 2012 (UTC)

That's cool you can get hold of such info, so fast. =P

Then again, I'll leave that part to you and the others. That's why wikis can be edited by many people = everyone shares the task. =P There's no way a lone person can put in everything at once. T_T

Anyways, SIU mentioned that he postponed the battle between Prince and Viole but then said he didn't really want to do it anyways. Ahh he probably won't do it anyways 'cos Viole is capable of "stopping" Prince.

Tofu21 08:27, April 23, 2012 (UTC)

Bleah I don't really want to see them fight. -__-;; I'm more interested in Miseng but SIU is just trolling all of us. I mean... will we even get to see her fight next chapter? T__T He's the Godfather of Troll and he might just... string all the readers along some more and keep up the tension.

Tofu21 10:49, April 23, 2012 (UTC)

Ugh... that lady is really creepy yep. That's why you don't just get treats from strangers unless you know how to assess them. =/

I suspect she's been climbing the Tower using that tactic of tricking people. God knows what she did to her child, to gain all that jewellery.

Well that's really very true... lol. After all, the Tower is also a place where the weak can be preyed on, so why should Miseng be excluded from being hurt just 'cos she's in the prologue? Even Viole got trampled on by the system too. And she should just buy the yoghurt if she wants to have it. It could also be said her greed is her undoing. A white van... lmao.. now you're being very devious. Tofu21 13:26, April 23, 2012 (UTC)

Ah well... she definitely looks like she stepped out of some Police poster, warning children not to follow strangers around. =D

And well, even if Akraptor had run there, it still takes a while since he's likely in Row 3(301) and Miseng's room is in Row 2(201).

Yep... say, do you think SIU will slowly show us the rest of the contestants or just finish many of them quickly?

Tofu21 14:10, April 23, 2012 (UTC)

Exactly what I was thinking. Otherwise, it'll take up to 15 chapters and this isn't exactly the Crown game. In fact, we may see people being knocked out. Plus, since it may take time to get from a room to another, it'd just cause the length to get longer.

Jewellery bitch? I mean c'mon... she's probably wearing an expensive fur coat, designer clothing and even high-end makeup. She's a freaking gold digger. If Viole hadn't been some powerful dude, who knows what she might do to him... ^^;;;;

Tofu21 14:24, April 23, 2012 (UTC)

I hope she dies slowly and that she's robbed of her jewellery and fur coat before her blood contaminates everything. Why not? Ja Wangnan could use some extra money and same for everyone else. :P

I'm pretty sure the fighting will start to pick up momentum. It's just that SIU seems quite tired atm so the chapter lengths aren't as awesome as before. =/ Yep, she must be torched alive...

Also, I'm an idiot... I was reading one of the chapter summaries and only did I realise the Submerged Fish test took part under the floating building. -__-;; I thought the regulars were far away 'cos each Floor is quite large.

Though I still need to figure out how the heck Evan and Kurudan managed to get into a building that you can only reach via teleportation since it's floating. Yu Han Sung didn't bring the building down, did he? Tofu21 17:23, April 23, 2012 (UTC)

Also, had to undo someone's edit... not sure if I did the right thing. After all, I'm fairly sure the native Koreans who hang out on the forum would correct it and if not, the other translators. I'm fairly new to this administrating thing after all. =x

http://towerofgod.wikia.com/wiki/Rachel?action=history

Tofu21 18:00, April 23, 2012 (UTC)

Ahhh now that you've edited out the "romanization" parts which I desperately put in... it makes more sense now since I don't think any of the readers need a lesson about "the difficulties of adapting foreign words into another language". =P

I've no idea either since you see, Kurudan used Dansool-sa on Ren. But if they were far apart, how did he manage to do that? So damn confusing. Though now that I recall, there was a circle appearing on the ceiling on top of Ren(probably Kurudan striking his hammer). And the field Kurudan was in... resembled the area where the Survivor Tests were located in.

Perhaps there is some sort of teleporting mechanism anyone can use to travel in and out of the building. Otherwise, even if there's an emergency, everyone will be stuck there. I mean... think about it: the staff and the Regulars have to get in and out of the building. =P Plus, few of the Regulars probably know enough shinsoo strengthening to try and err... jump out or upwards. xD

Ah well, we'll probably find out about all these shinsoo techniques soon enough. And also, about the teleporting stuff.

Also, the Submerged Fish Hunt test was awesome... I wonder when SIU will make a test like that again. ><;;

Tofu21 16:49, April 24, 2012 (UTC)

I'm not sure about Urek but this is what his page says:

"He is recorded as the fastest person to climb the Inner Tower through an orthodox method".

I'm not sure what that even means... xD I think... probably normal... though. -__-;; How disappointing, then again... very few people probably knew that an Irregular could ask a Guardian for a test.

Hmmm do you think our team 2 will stop to train for a while, somewhere down the road?

And anyways, still it's true most of Team 2 will probably never become High Rankers.

I think yes... they(especially Nya Nia and Miseng) will have to work a lot harder and drop the carefree attitudes.

Btw, do you think having 2 wave controllers would make a team seriously overpowered?

Tofu21 05:32, April 26, 2012 (UTC)

Ah, I was referring to the fact that Viole is wave controller and IF Miseng was one too... would that not be overkill(and especially during tests and if not, against other opponents)? But I guess not... most wave controllers are probably somewhat or slightly above average on the 20F.

Plus, hers might just be the aiding type... as in: healing.

Of course, this could be way off and Miseng is also a lightbearer, like her sister. After all, someone suggested that lightbearers are possibly people good with technology, like Repellista, Hachuling and his "gadget".

Damn, let's just see. T___T

And now, wouldn't that be the envy of almost every team out there? =P Still, it's extremely unlikely 'cos SIU likely put in rules governing the number of wave controllers in the Tower. =P

Ahh someone also suggested Miseng could be controlling the light cube near Goseng with her handphone.

Hmmm but you know what? This just means: if Miseng is really the lightbearer and Viole makes her cry during the test, it means "GAME OVER". =P So he better behave and be nice to her. I'm looking forward to seeing him... being at a total loss when she decides to have her way with him. xD Our mighty FUG slayer candidate being pawned by a child's tears.

Tofu21 07:45, April 26, 2012 (UTC)

Stay aloof and spend time crying and whining to himself forever? And "eliminating" everyone who dares to approach him and making excuses for his behaviour? That sounds really pathetic, you know. :D

Nah, just kidding... he can go and ... spend his time practising his lines and poses of "how to be the biggest badass". And spend all his time styling his hair... :P

And Miseng can go take pointers from him to be this "sweet little gal who turns into a scary psycho" when you look into her eyes or when you accidentally walk past her at night. Yep, she can go and cry to Akraptor... and then, carve him up in his sleep. :P

LOL... nah, he won't die, Miseng won't be a psycho either. =P

Well, where do you think Quant is now? I couldn't stop laughing when I saw his face on that shinsoo challenge machine. It's like the photographer kept telling him "to look as badass and evil, as possible".

Do you think he followed Lero-Ro to the 77th floor?

Tofu21 08:26, April 26, 2012 (UTC)

But it'd be more funny if he got kicked out and ended up working on one of the Floors.

However, I doubt so... I think he's probably trumpeting his own ego and cashing in on his own reputation and popularity(from possibly being affiliated or being part of the WingTree). After all, even Repellista and many of the people in the Palace probably know his face by now. =P

Also, I think he and Lero-ro probably have a rivalry of some sort. You know, the ranker rivalry SIU mentioned?

Or it could be a one-sided thing. =P

Lero-Ro doesn't want to have anything to do with Quant but Quant keeps sticking to him and imagining some rivalry.

Btw, what political rivalry?

Tofu21 09:37, April 26, 2012 (UTC)

Ah you meant that stuff. Of course but you didn't specify, see? :D I thought you meant being able to gain favour with whatever Family, collecting achievements and so on. Oh well, whatever... it's not like I should preach either. =P

And of course that stuff is important. The higher your status, the more respect you receive.

But isn't political rivalry also part of ranker rivalry too? Speaking of which I tried to find the blog post about the ranker rivalry but I can't find it at all.

Tofu21 10:05, April 26, 2012 (UTC)

Well, hopefully so... oops! I forgot it's probably in the postlogue. Damn you, SIU for plastering info all over the place.

Tofu21 11:16, April 26, 2012 (UTC)

"Complicated?!" Try ... Ultra complicated. I took just one look at the Zahard Empire page and my head is starting to get groggy. ><;;

Hypocrite... :D Considering you skimmed through it a few days ago. =P


 * pumps all the info into Urek Mazino's head and makes that info loop through for a few years*

Hmmm perhaps I should've deleted that page instead. Yep, that's a good idea. =)

Tofu21 12:10, April 26, 2012 (UTC)

But but but but... it's too long-winded! =P

Actually nah... I think the length is fine. I just need to add in more headings and sub-headings so it's less confusing.

If I tried to simplify the content, it'd likely warp the entire political structure.

Tofu21 13:01, April 26, 2012 (UTC)

That'd make it boring and I'd stop reading it immediately. =P

Tofu21 13:38, April 26, 2012 (UTC)

I think we're gonna find out soon.

Plus, even if there many rankers out there, many might be too scared to involve themselves when the FUG rears its head.

And damn Repellista, what in the hell is she up to?

Tofu21 14:31, April 26, 2012 (UTC)

No, you silly... I mean... do you think she's stalking spying on Wangnan? =o

Tofu21 14:52, April 26, 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for ruining my image of her. =P

Noooo... lmao, I don't want to hear about her watching Wangnan or Viole or Yihwa or some unfortunate victim showering. That's just too... ahahahahahaha. :D

Well, I meant was... tracking his progress and so on. I wonder what she'd have done if he'd actually died. After all, it's quite evident he's likely the Zahard Prince. Though if he's still around with Viole much later on, the team is gonna be explosive. Anyways, I'm so tired of protagonists who're powerful from the start, which makes them have a lot less empathy for others who've to work really hard.

And about S2: btw, damn @ the genderbending(not Nya Nia but Kim Lurker). I mean WTF... normally, it's someone cute, sweet and innocent-looking or cool or mysterious-looking. But damnit, he's a sadist, dead drop ugly and what's up with that freaking flower?!

Tofu21 16:28, April 26, 2012 (UTC)

Yes, SIU indeed is weird... but he enjoys trolling people. =P I think he must be laughing at how much everyone was speculating, over who'll make it into Viole's team(the last member). And then, he reduces it to 7! LOL... talk about pawning all of us. Plus the 6 people we've already seen so far and Yihwa, that's 7 in total.

Tofu21 16:37, April 28, 2012 (UTC)

K i'm gonna delete this page:

http://towerofgod.wikia.com/wiki/Organisations

RED is not an organisation but a division.

also, the page is the same as this:

http://towerofgod.wikia.com/wiki/Dominant_Parties_of_The_Tower

Go ahead.

Oh crap... reminds me I gotta do something. Thanks to my mistake, Baam25's Talk page is now a shinhueh. =P

Tofu21 08:30, April 29, 2012 (UTC)

I may not be staying on for the chapter to be released. Too busy.

Ah, he can go fix it himself.

Tofu21 08:41, April 29, 2012 (UTC)

I know... lol and even if he wants to remove it, he's gonna have to nuke the whole page. =P I just edited his page again and "buried" the coding deep inside. Ahhh it's so fun... :P

Tofu21 09:42, April 29, 2012 (UTC)

Also, damnit... I thought 43rd guardian would be able to rewrite while retaining the overall meaning of the sentences but he's been changing too many things on the Tower page and when he moves the information over to other Pages. I just don't have the time to check everything atm and correct his mistakes. I wonder if one of the other admins can do it. ><;; 'Cos I'm kinda busy atm.

Tofu21 09:57, April 29, 2012 (UTC)

Oh so you're tired and drunk. =P

It's okay... I'll ask Zahard or someone else to do it.

Tofu21 11:00, April 29, 2012 (UTC)

Chickens can't sing
It is done and I really regret not confirming with 43rdFloorGuardian on how much of the editing guidelines he knew. Poor Zahard, I just put him in-charge of the situation. ^^;;

Tofu21 11:53, April 29, 2012 (UTC)

All right, if you say so! =)

Meanwhile... I think I'll bite into some chocolate bookies.

Tofu21 12:59, April 29, 2012 (UTC)

Yes, om nom nom nom

http://archive.batoto.net/comics/2011/06/28/t/read4e0972b788742/20110624170439_IMAG01_18.jpg

Tofu21 13:04, April 29, 2012 (UTC)

Nope... =P Damnit over 1 hr more before the comic is released and I need to sleep. =__=

Cya...

Tofu21 14:01, April 29, 2012 (UTC)

Ah, I decided I'll stay up but I probably won't join up in the discussion. ^^;;

Tofu21 15:06, April 29, 2012 (UTC)

Yup for once, we've got a weakish looking character who isn't that dumb after all. ^^;;

And that fight was cool and awesome. But it also decreases the odds, I think, of Miseng being a wave controller. There can't be more than 2 wave controllers in one place, can there? And 3? What the heck is this? A wave controller social club like the Wingtree?

I also liked the sliver of Akraptor's past.

Tofu21 15:52, April 29, 2012 (UTC)

She can't be a scout 'cos scouts, from what I've read from some posts, require true guts to face danger. That's 'cos they've to sneak right into enemy territory(using the darkness) and even possibly be prepared to get hurt/die, if things go wrong. Just look at her! She's hiding under the bed.. =o She's soo not Ship Leeso if she meets up with the Bull.

I think she just might be a lightbearer 'cos so far, lightbearers seem to be very acquainted with technology. Repellista owns a computer and treats operating the Opera like a game, Hachuling has a game console and Miseng seems to be playing games on her handphone or using it to control the lighthouse. Koon? Not sure.

But you do realise the Lighthouse comes with a keyboard, right? :P And Opera also has a mouse.

Tofu21 16:16, April 29, 2012 (UTC)

Oh man, I don't know... lol. ><;; Maybe she was distracted.

Damn forget it.. I'll classify her as "unknown plant species" for now. Damn freaking hell.... or maybe that handphone is just to throw us off. 'Cos it could be Goseng who's a light bearer. -___-;;

Ughhh SIU is a freaking troll. He must be having a lot of fun confusing everyone.

Tofu21 16:26, April 29, 2012 (UTC)

Right, he does... I love the way he's expanding about all the other characters.

Anyways, damnit... I know it'll be about 1++ yr more until this arc ends but can't wait to see what they'll all end up doing by then. :P

Yeowch! You caught me red-handed... damnit. T_T

But well, just 1 to 2 more dyas and I'm done relaxing.Tofu21 15:02, April 30, 2012 (UTC)

But I can't wait to see what will Ja Wangnan's powers will be. I wonder if he can "create" Princesses by boosting their power?

And yawns... yep, meanwhile I'm gonna enjoy some sardine sandwich.

Tofu21 15:21, April 30, 2012 (UTC)

There's a possibility though with every power comes limitations so who knows what they are. =P

But I'm sure that ability likely can be used on males too. Makes me wonder... auughhhh... what might even happen.

Kekekekeke...
Btw, don't get my hopes up. We need to get over this Test first. ^^;; And then they need to solidify as a team and be able to work together in terms of combat and trust.

Then, I think some of the mood will just be like Hatsu and Anak... as in: Buuuurrrrrrnnnn. =P And probably everyone will be scared and as usual, Miseng will walk over to Viole. Btw, did you notice that Viole probably kept that bar of chocolate chip? 'Cos when he walked over to the machine, there was nothing where he last sat.

And it'll be even worse for Viole 'cos she can probably sense his heart and has a BS detector... watch out Viole, she's gonna break down all the walls and quietly disarm you and stop you from running away.

Anyways damn... dying to see more Wangnan vs Yihwa scenes. It'll be even funnier, I think, when Viole starts to open his mouth again. =P

I also want to see everyone co-operate in a team and their interactions 'cos it's gonna be all super interesting especially during combat or normal interactions or romance.

Hey btw, do you think SIU will cover Team 2 again in this arc after several of the other episodes are finished? I'm nervous... what if he leaves us on a cliffhanger until the next Arc? =x

Tofu21 16:58, April 30, 2012 (UTC)

Oh and a few days ago, someone tried to give me a suggestion about the Wiki. Naturally, I turned her down flat and very bluntly 'cos I didn't really feel like encouraging her. Too bad, she felt offended but she didn't even think through her own suggestion before posting.

http://www.batoto.net/forums/index.php?app=members&module=profile&section=status&do=list&status_id=10905

I know... I usually get told I sound more like some pissed-off elderly than a young person.

But what can I do? I was a bit grouchy from editing and it didn't seem like she'd stop talking. And I wasn't in any mood to explain to her why the suggestions were largely unsuitable for Wikis. She did seem quite persistent and seemed to also want a lot of answers as well. :P

So, I told her straight to the point 'cos hey, I wanted to do many other things.

Tofu21 05:00, May 1, 2012 (UTC)

Yes I sure do... for humor's sake. =P

Btw, did you ever read my previous longish reply about Team 2? :P

Tofu21 05:18, May 1, 2012 (UTC)


 * muches on food*

Hahaha I don't always remember, either.

Tofu21 06:03, May 1, 2012 (UTC)

About the info on the Regulars page: no, it was not wrong and taken from the Postlogue. Regulars from outside of the Tower have to be returned back home and okay, maybe Headon accompanies them.

And on Floor 2, they sleep in dormitories 'cos they're not allowed to reside in the Middle Area.

Tofu21 08:30, May 7, 2012 (UTC)

Okay that was an assumption I made but... aren't some Regulars chosen from outside the Tower?

Oh sheez... uhm, okay the Postlogue says they're returned to the Inner Tower(likely to a certain Floor or to the Floor they came from) but there're exceptions, no? 'Cos Regulars from outside the Tower have to be teleported back outside. You don't dump them in the Outer Tower, do you?

Which reminds me... I made a mistake of thinking that the books Rachel read, were talking about this Tower. Ugh... -__-;; I sometimes hate TOG.

Okay as for that part... uhm, okay yeah here we go:

Regulars only have the right to live in the Middle Area on the 20th Floor and onwards. As in: lodgings, food, etc.

Apart from that, where do people from the 3rd to 19th floor sleep? It can't be in the barn with the horses. But I dunno... maybe they sleep in the Testing Arenas and get to smell all the blood. :P Oh whatever, I'll just put it as ... on 2nd floor, they sleep in dormitories. On 3rd to 19th Floors, it's unknown where they stay given that they don't have the right to live in the Middle Area.

That better?

Tofu21 10:37, May 7, 2012 (UTC)

Serena Rinnen was a thief who lurked in the Middle Area, preying on caravans who brought in goods from the Outer Tower. No, i didn't remember that... 'cos I just went to look through ch 49 and saw her convo with Ho. =P

Well, it's okay... I should've quoted the source 'cos this is what happens when we can't find the source and think "holy crap, where the hell did you pull that info from? The freaking skies?". ><;; =D

Chosen from outside the tower... mmm. that one, I gotta find the source too. Damnit, i forgot to quote that... ><;;

Tofu21 11:56, May 7, 2012 (UTC)

Well, the "chosen from outside" part is in one of the sticky threads so it ought to be quite accurate. I recall reading about it somewhere too in the comic... =p

Tofu21 15:40, May 7, 2012 (UTC)

Damnit, I'm gonna trash the pc.. You told me sometime ago that "Regulars are sometimes chosen from outside the Tower" and I supposedly read that somewhere too. However... I can't find it, not even after going through the first 60++ chapters. =___=

Tofu21 18:32, May 7, 2012 (UTC)

Nvm, I found it!!! It's in ch 10: "often they live in the residential Tower". Lero-ro about Regulars.

Tofu21 18:47, May 7, 2012 (UTC)

Well, you evil evil admin... :P

Also, what's with all these people who don't understand that you need someone in the room 'cos only the remote can be used to open the door from the inside? Currently, the doors can't be opened from the outside. (About those people arguing about Yeon.)

{C}And that is one of the reasons why Yeon can't leave the room. If the room is locked from the inside, how are you going to open the door(which is likely indestructible or can only be broken by people with insanely high strength levels like found on Floor 80)? That's why you don't see people breaking down the opponent's doors.

And there's probably a system which the remote connects to, and which in turn determines if the door can be opened from the outside or inside. After all, the remote is based on the wireless concept which remotes function on, in the real world. And the system is likely designed to not accept signals from outside the room. Or if not, the door probably prevents any signals from going through.

And the lock in the door is likely electronic or if not, some other type of technology. C'mon we've been seeing the Inner Tower use TV screens, light bulbs and other stuff. So why can't they use that for the rooms as well?

That's what I think, =P Maybe a few too many assumptions though.

Tofu21 04:22, May 8, 2012 (UTC)


 * sighs* I can't get why people aren't getting any of that. Wth man...

Ditto on the trackers. i was too forgetfull to even write that but it's true. Probably it'll beep like crazy and connect to the main monitoring system(somewhere else) to register the disqualification.

It's probably like this: the systems in each room will monitor the remotes and they're in turn connected to a main system that tracks their status(what usb connector is connected to it and so on). And likely, Love carries some gadget that is connected to the system.

And each usb connector is probably unique and has some identifying key that registers like: room 301, connector 1 and perhaps, some unique ID no.

This is why TOG is awesome, btw.. but also why the speculating can be hell. >_<;;

Tofu21 06:23, May 8, 2012 (UTC)

Nooo... spends time screaming. ><;;

All the name changes I'm gonna have to do in my Zahard Empire page. =P Ah well, they'll have to live with the wrong names for now.

Is it possible to get Luslec's profile off The Company's private stash? I don't want to type it all out. Just copy and paste it into the Wiki page is the easy way.

Tofu21 12:05, May 8, 2012 (UTC)

Good lords, let's just hope he disputes pleaseeee... :P

I like having name accuracy but i'm just lazy. =P

Tofu21 12:15, May 8, 2012 (UTC)

Hi

I think we need to have the category "Weapon" on the "Armour Inventory" page. Since Armour are weapons.

I know that a lot of people today dont think of armour as weapons, but historical this is what they are. The sharp parting between the two is a very new thing that only came about after D&D and the like.

Sigfodr 14:42, May 26, 2012 (UTC)

I thought maybe we could use the Zahard emblem for a new background of thw wiki? What do you think?

"I am Zahard, the King of The Tower... Wiki?! What? No! Go talk to a different admin! I have no business with you!" - User:Zahard 23:51, June 3, 2012 (UTC)

Zis god-awful red is intact for the meaning of wiki death. XD

Try to find a color that suits ze backgroung for me, I give up :P

"I am Zahard, the King of The Tower... Wiki?! What? No! Go talk to a different admin! I have no business with you!" - User:Zahard 10:28, June 6, 2012 (UTC)

REALLY?! ..I doomed this wiki. Wait until Baam25th comes back... he can fix this.

"I am Zahard, the King of The Tower... Wiki?! What? No! Go talk to a different admin! I have no business with you!" - User:Zahard 12:04, June 6, 2012 (UTC)

I didn't make the one you saw. But I changed it again... See if you like it

"I am Zahard, the King of The Tower... Wiki?! What? No! Go talk to a different admin! I have no business with you!" - User:Zahard 02:16, June 7, 2012 (UTC)

Image translation
"I met him/her for the first time at the testing area, and just ended up as his/her teammate. Although I was always with the big guy.. " is what it says.

Of course, Korean is often not very gender-specific in terms of speech. I think this is when Rachel is talking about Androssi? GoDai 17:29, June 12, 2012 (UTC)

Oh right hahaha. Feel free to ask me about these kinds of things any time, as I am a bored person myself. XP GoDai 04:56, June 13, 2012 (UTC)

I translated it again because I realized I translated it wrong. The sentence can mean different things depending on the situation... DX "Yeah. I have no idea who she (Rachel) is. I met her for the first time at the exam area, and just ended up as her teammate. Although the big guy was already with [her]... " So, I have come to the conclusion that when Androssi met Rachel, Rachel was already with Akryung.GoDai 00:32, June 14, 2012 (UTC)

Names
Ah okay I'll jot down who I remember. The stuff in italics are for pronunciation specifications - not necessarily the most accurate. Also, I didn't really check for names that SIU may have written in English in the original. I think statcards should give better English names than mine. And those were all the characters up to Chapter 30, I believe. Hopefully it helps! GoDai 08:50, June 13, 2012 (UTC)
 * Baam (밤, Bam); Twenty-Fifth Night (스물다섯번째 밤, Seumeuldaseotbeonjjae Bam)
 * Rachel (라헬, Rahel) - pronounced "Rahel" as if it was... Jewish? But definitely written as Rachel. aka Michelle Light (미쉘 라이트, Michelle Light)
 * Headon (헤돈, Hedon)
 * (Ha) Yuri Zahard (하 유리 자하드, Ha Yuri Jahad)
 * Evan Edrok (에반 에드록, Evan Edrok)
 * Urek Mazino (우렉 마지노, Oorek Majino)
 * Black March (검은 삼월, Geomeun Samwol)
 * Evankhell (에반켈, Evankel)
 * Koon Agero Agnis (쿤 아게로 아그니스, Kun Agero Agnis)
 * Rak Wreckraiser (라크 레크레이셔, Rak Rekraisher) - No idea why Raisher... aka Rwa-Leader (롸리더), with "Rwa" being an exaggerated form of the usual "Ra" in his name. Also Crocodile/Alligator (악어, Ahguh)
 * Da-an Tribe (다안족, Da'anjok) - Not a person, but just as a note, if written as "多眼," "Da-an" can mean "many eyes" which this is most likely referring to.
 * Ship Leesoo (십이수, Shib Eesu) - I guess Lee is okay since Ee often becomes Lee in English. aka Ahjuhssi (아저씨)
 * Hatsu (하츠, Hacheu) - Probably better as Hatsu, like a Japanese-ish name.
 * Anak Zahard (아낙 자하드, Ahnahk Jahad) aka Lizard (도마뱀, Domabaem)
 * Hong Chunhwa (홍천화, Hong Cheonhwa)
 * Sunwoo Narea (선우 나래, Sunwoo Nahreh)
 * Lero Ro (레로 로, Lero Ro) - Often written as Lero-Ro (레로-로), with a dash of sorts, or as Leroro (레로로) with no space whatsoever.
 * Phonsekal Laure (폰세칼 라우뢰, Ponsehkal Raurweh) - ...Yeah what language is this name in.
 * Phantaminum (펜타미넘, Pentaminum) - As with Laure's name, P- and F-sounds usually don't have any distinction when expressed in Korean. Phanta or Penta? Who knows.
 * Enryu (엔류, Enryu) - Sounds pretty Japanese.
 * Yu Hansung (유한성, Yu Hansung) - One of those names in this manhwa that actually sound pretty Korean. Although even this one could be Chinese-based.
 * Norang (노랑, Nohrahng) - Means "yellow". The test helper at the door test.
 * Maria (마리아, Maria) - The girl that Agero helped instead of his own sister in the past.
 * Dede Kancho (데데칸초, Dehdeh Kancho)
 * Chopin (쇼핀, Shopin) - Religious dude.
 * HoHohHo HoHohHohHo God (호홓호 호홓홓호 신) - hohhohohohohohohohohho.
 * Quant (퀀트, Quant)
 * Kon (콘, Kon) - Guy with double swords who gets owned by Anak.
 * Leo Clocker (레오 클록커, Leo Clocker) - Maybe Cloaker.
 * Deod (데오드, Deod) - In English, probs "day-ode".
 * Cho Paewang (초패왕, Cho Paewang) - Means "First Emperor" or "Ultimate Ruler". He uses the fighting style Ultimate Ruler Heat Death Fist (초패왕열사권, Chopaewangyeolsagwon) which clearly has too long of a channeling time.
 * Serena Linnen (세레나 린넨, Serena Linnen) - L? R? Another lack of distinction. aka Ahjumma (아줌마)
 * Ho (호, Ho) - Dat name.
 * Green April (초록 사월, Chorok Sawol)
 * Ashul Edwaru (아슐 에드와루, Ashul Edwaru) - Title: Famed Blacksmith (명장, Myeongjang)
 * Catan (카탄, Kahtahn) - Stretchy guy.
 * Manbarondena (만바론데나, Mahnbahrondehnah) - Koon's trusty bag.
 * Hwa Ryun (화련, Hwaryeon) - Guide girl involved in conspiracy. Androssi calls her Tize (타이즈, Tize) although that could be a joke about her tight black suit.
 * Androssi Zahard (엔드로시 자하드, Endrosy Jahad) aka Eye Ghost (눈깔 귀신), which means something like "Scary Eyes" in Korean, used as an insult to people with weird, sharp eyes.
 * Akryung (악령, Ahkryeong) - Literally means "Evil Spirit".
 * Kurdan (쿠르단, Kurdan)
 * Boulahrouz (블라루즈, Blaruze)
 * Hyun Seung (현 승, Hyun Seung) - Spear Keeper, got injured and failed.
 * Aleksei Amigochaz (알렉세이 아미고챠즈, Aleksei Amigochaz)
 * Erik Biyon (에릭 비욘, Eric Biyon)
 * Gun (군, Goon)
 * Pichru (피츠루, Picheuroo)
 * Inoa Yoran (이노아 요란, Eenoa Yorahn)
 * Liron 3 (리론 3, Reeron 3)
 * Chungchung (청청, Cheongcheong) - Guy that can fly in certain concentrations of shinsu due to his light weight.
 * Levin (레빈, Rebin) - The complaining sniper.
 * Palgyeon (팔견, Palgyeon) - His name sounds hillariously similar to the Korean word for discovery (발견, Balgyeon), which could be a joke referring to the fact that he's a scout.
 * Chichi (치치, Chichi)
 * Bexter (벡스터, Beckster)
 * Rozeal (로제알, Rojeahl)
 * Grey (그레이, Grey)
 * Yuga (유가, Yooga) - Wave Wielder Teacher. aka Lo Po Bia Len (로 포 비아 렌, Ro Po Bia Ren)
 * Yu Bokdol (유복돌, Yu Bokdol) - Spear Keeper Teacher.
 * Parakkiul (파라큘, Parakewl) - Good!
 * Ucha (우차, Oochah)
 * Green Phil (그린 필, Geurin Pil)
 * Yeon Changsoo (연창수, Yeon Changsoo)
 * Des Lion (데스 라이언, Dehseu Raiuhn) - Suck-up.
 * Back Flip Poker (백 플립 포커, Back Flip Poker)
 * Den Asil (덴 아실, Den Asil).
 * Organ (오르간, Organ)
 * Muhchi (머치, Meochi) - Could be trying to say "much".
 * Red Bull (레드 불, Red Bull) - He gives you wings.
 * Azadni (아자드니, Ajadeuni)
 * Denbos (덴보스, Denbos)
 * Prutina Plutanica (프루티나 플루타니카, Prutina Plutanika)
 * Shaun (숀, Shon)
 * Kurchop (쿠르초프, Kureuchop)
 * Kukaku Rakukakuka (쿠카쿠 라쿠카쿠카, Kukaku Rakukakuka)
 * Bunnian (버니안, Buhniahn)
 * Dadi (다디, Dahdi)
 * Le-ara (레-아라, Re-ara)
 * Full Black (풀 블랙, Full Black)
 * Block Stangtil (블락 스탕틸, Block Stangtil)
 * Red Hair (레드 헤어, Red Hair)
 * Hoshi (호시, Hoshi)
 * Adan (아단)
 * Paul Shin (폴 신, Pol Shin)
 * Adam Senson (아담 센슨, Adam Senseun)

Items, and other things.
I realized that some pages don't exist, and would be nice if they existed.

First off, maybe an infobox for Items to make item pages more legit.

Secondly, pages for Sword, Great Blue Spear, Inventory, Reel Inventory, and God's Eye.

And yeah my source says Phantaminum is definitely an Exis. GoDai 03:44, June 14, 2012 (UTC)

If no one objects, I'll start making pages for those items. GoodYearBlimp 04:29, June 14, 2012 (UTC)

@Urek, http://cafe.naver.com/inutero3334/62461 is where the Korean stuff is in. Ctrl+F 엑시즈 (Exis) and there's a subsection about 펜타미넘, or Phantaminum, the only Exis in the Tower at the moment. It's the official fan cafe so most of it is taken out of SIU's words. GoDai 06:18, June 14, 2012 (UTC)

@GoodYearBlimp, You cool bro GoDai 06:18, June 14, 2012 (UTC)

A page where I can put down direct translations
Hi, I was planning to create a user subpage, where I will type out translations of SIU's notes on the world of the tower from his personal blog and the official fan cafe. This will include Korean names for important terms and some minor analyses on background and context. I plan to follow a form that's similar to that of http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/User:ShounenSuki/Third_Databook_Translations, which is basically an English translation of a particular Naruto databook, full of data entries. On the Naruto wiki, that page is used to fill other pages with info and verify them. Of course, the info I put on the translation subpage (SIU's own notes on shinsu, 3 lords, gong bang, fug, wolhaiksong, positions, etc.) will also be put into the actual pages. The page will serve as a sort of verification document, so that users that know of it will be able to access it directly on this wiki without need of knowledge of Korean. Each entry I translated will be followed by an internet link or source, so when a user takes information off the page, they know where to cite. And I will occasionally translate more and put more on the page, at other user's requests. So could I do this? If I can, please let other admins know. Thanks! GoDai 06:05, June 15, 2012 (UTC)

Awesome. Now... how is a subpage created exactly? Do I just name an article like User:GoDai/SIU's notes on the world of the Tower and it becomes my subpage? GoDai 07:46, June 15, 2012 (UTC)

Yay, first ones are up. It'll probably end up as a wall of text but you know, Ctrl+F. :P GoDai 09:05, June 15, 2012 (UTC)

Sigh*

The Company is taking a while for their release. Have you gotten any sneak peaks yet? My friend (absolute Manhwa nut - LOVES Dr. Frost) is interested in donating for the advantage, but I'm not convinced it's worth it for them... By all means though, it still is a worthy website to donate to.

High Ranker Number Three - Zahard 11:21, June 15, 2012 (UTC)

Ah, coolies. :D

High Ranker Number Three - Zahard 12:19, June 15, 2012 (UTC)

WHAAAAT! But Chesnut's are good! They're exactly the same as the original text!

High Ranker Number Three - Zahard 12:25, June 15, 2012 (UTC)

Yeah... Nevermind - I won't get hung up over that :P

High Ranker Number Three - Zahard 12:29, June 15, 2012 (UTC)

I have to admit, The Company's work is always at a good standard.

High Ranker Number Three - Zahard 12:33, June 15, 2012 (UTC)

Yeah. Though I don't generally like to go over Northern's. I'd rather just read the original and just use the Company's terms.

High Ranker Number Three - Zahard 12:40, June 15, 2012 (UTC)

Yep XD

High Ranker Number Three - Zahard 12:48, June 15, 2012 (UTC)

Oh the simplicity of life

High Ranker Number Three - Zahard 12:49, June 15, 2012 (UTC)

Oh man. Just spent like 20 minutes writing out a short elaboration on Shinsoo theory in my blogs... ARGH damnit, who's gonna understand it? I put it in the worst context possible.

High Ranker Number Three - Zahard 13:10, June 15, 2012 (UTC)

Hahahaha, "anything for the edits"

High Ranker Number Three - Zahard 13:15, June 15, 2012 (UTC)

GASP :O Source please *.o

Oh wowzas. This is gonna take a while.

High Ranker Number Three - Zahard 13:34, June 15, 2012 (UTC)

Wait... what? Viole is a self-proclaimed slayer candidate?!!!!!!!!!!!!!

13:56, June 15, 2012 (UTC)

Together or Separate?
I can also manage walls of text, but an extremely long wall of text may not be so convenient. Should I make each entry a separate blog article? GoDai 23:37, June 15, 2012 (UTC)

Hmm I see, that makes sense. So since I translated two entries about shinsoo so far, should I move those over onto a separate blog post about translated forms of SIU's notes on shinsoo? GoDai 00:00, June 16, 2012 (UTC)

Yep, I'm on it. Thanks for letting me know. GoDai 03:27, June 16, 2012 (UTC)

Hi
I love that you are removing pages that we have 2 of (like the 2 * 100 floor page).

But I think we need to put more attention on dead links. The links that belong to the page that is getting removed.

I was only able to find 1 in the 100 floor page case. but there might be more of them. (I think they get red if they are dead, think)

Btw. I have 1 more page for you :) Contract. same, but less info as The Contract.

Best regards

Sigfodr 00:47, June 16, 2012 (UTC)

Re: Character Names
Hmm so the bottom, like where things like Trivia go? What about in the case where a name is not right? Would that require renaming the page? Thanks. GoDai 06:15, June 16, 2012 (UTC)

Oh by the way when I type something like (아낙 자하드, Ahnahk Jahhahd; "Anak Jahad"), the "Ahnahk Jahad" part in the middle would be for pronunciation of the Korean name, not actually how the name should be written. :) GoDai 06:18, June 16, 2012 (UTC)

Discuss name changes with Zahard, add alternate translation to bottom, also add Korean name to infobox, got it. Also, I'm aware that SIU's English ability is indeed quite questionable, but I'm sure things like Levin versus Lebin are quiet legit. :P GoDai 06:29, June 16, 2012 (UTC)

I don't want to brag, but I made the new bg and i think it looks okay! Right? :D god, the pixel sizing was difficult.

High Ranker Number Three - Zahard 11:20, June 17, 2012 (UTC)

Shinsoo-related Korean text
Wow this is really good information about shinsoo. Is it one of the articles that were taken down from SIU's blog? Anyway, I really want to translate it and post it, but what should the cited source be? GoDai 22:34, June 21, 2012 (UTC)


 * Hm okay. So I can translate? GoDai 00:08, June 22, 2012 (UTC)


 * It is done. GoDai 01:59, June 22, 2012 (UTC)
 * Haha thanks, I appreciate it. I also added that info to the Shinsoo page, by the way. :) GoDai 06:09, June 22, 2012 (UTC)
 * Haha thanks, I appreciate it. I also added that info to the Shinsoo page, by the way. :) GoDai 06:09, June 22, 2012 (UTC)


 * Ah well, I gotta say I'm lucky to have been born as a Korean and learned from very good teachers of the English language. The Korean language truly is a very complex language... And don't mind asking any time, I'm a person who loves to stay busy. :P GoDai 07:03, June 22, 2012 (UTC)
 * Cool stuff, I like your edits. Just made slight changes. GoDai 07:48, June 22, 2012 (UTC)

"Bang"
The thing that says "방" would be Bang here. Like I said, we usually say 방 for "room", but SIU has stated that the hanja is 放, meaning "to let go" or "to release". It is one of the 28 common hanja that have the sound "bang". If it was room, it would be 房. :P GoDai 08:32, June 22, 2012 (UTC)

Well, both "room" and "release" are ponounced the same (both are pronounced "bahng"). It's just that it doesn't mean room here, it means release. It can be written Bang, Baang, or Bahng. I prefer the first, but the second and third ones help make sure people pronounce it correctly. GoDai 18:11, June 22, 2012 (UTC)

SIU's views on Lurker
"I feel like many readers are misunderstanding. When Wangnan says that he would forgive Lurker in this chapter (Part 2 Chapter 21), it's not because Lurker is a good guy or anything.

Many people think I'm forgiving Lurker by beautifying him;; Whatever his past was, I had no plans to beautify his actions in any way.

The reason why Wangnan could not kill Lurker is that in the current situation where people must step on each other to climb up, Lurker, who killed Nia "because he had to go up the Tower", is a more fair of a human compared to Wangnan, who was trying to kill Lurker for "moral reasons".

Thats why Wangnan "couldn't" him, and it's not like he forgave Lurker because Lurker because he's a good person^^;

'''Even then Wangnan says he'll "forgive" him even in this situation that lacks morals, and this is like Wangnan's last-ditch effect in an attempt to try to keep watching (maintaining and abiding by) morality. In turn, because Lurker is a human who has given up hope in those morals, he says "You can't forgive me" to Wangnan.'''

Eventually, Wangnan says that if that's the case, he'll change the Tower himself.

Although this is information that will also be briefly discussed in the next chapter, it is a part that many people are misunderstanding, and I fear that I may be implanting incorrect methods of thinking into young readers, so I have written this on my blog.

'''Every time I draw manhwa, there are many times when I feel limits in expression and direction. I will try harder to send a more proper message, even if just a little more.'''

Thank you." - SIU

Directly translated by me! from 2012.06.25 [출처 2012.06.25|작성자 SIU - SIU's blog].

Robert Aisand
Can't find anything. I seriously need to be nieghbours with SIU or something. Could be private. For me, those dates are unclickable, telling me nothing public was posted on those days. SIU said he'll posted the private info soon so I shall wait ha... GoDai 09:01, June 26, 2012 (UTC)

Re: Tailse User Story Hmm maybe. I just like the original copies for reference. I guess I could give you the images and you could typeset them separately? Not sure how to post all the images though...? GoDai 04:03, July 2, 2012 (UTC) Ah well... I'm not very good at compressing and uploading files at all. I have some friends who are absolute pros, so I may do that like... a billion years later XD. Unless you need them soon; then I can give it a shot right away. GoDai 04:29, July 2, 2012 (UTC)

Thank you Urek for your help! :) I just had a mini lesson about this wikia last week by one of the users here (GoDai) lol. But I'll probably continuously need your help in the future. :P Please be mindful about my newbieness and feel free to make changes to my work.

GiGa5000 18:15, July 8, 2012 (UTC)

Speech Bubble "You're the first Princess to possess two 13 Months after Garam-unni." Note that this implies Eurasia Enne Jahad held two first, then Garam, then Yuri. :) GoDai (talk) 07:37, July 15, 2012 (UTC)

Oooh I see. Yeah it's definitely Garam. Karam would be an alternative, since the Korean "g" (ㄱ) is considered to be closer to "k" by many. But then again, there is a separate Korean "k" (ㅋ), so I prefer "g." GoDai (talk) 22:37, July 15, 2012 (UTC)

A few duplicate pages Hey Urek, There are duplicate pages of Ch. 70 and Ch. 105. Could you remove the ones that are less complete? Thanks.

Sarnik (talk) 22:13, July 30, 2012 (UTC)