Talk:Enryu's Thorn/@comment-14.139.241.85-20160209000533/@comment-6166034-20160209003958

Let me first commend you for putting forth another theory and the arguments so that we could tear through it like butter, it's very courageous of you.

Let me start by what you have wrong : the thorn is never called "god killer" but "king killer".

1. The thorn is a weapon...now. It was something living before, and it was dead when FUG retrieved it.

2. The Thorn was dead...There was no point in keeping it.

3.The demon was there to resurect the thorn.

4.First only reaction and amplification to bam's power, then it showed its own power.

5. Because seizing the shinsoo around itself is supposed to be the power of floor guardians, called "god" by many inhabitants of the tower.

You forgot: The thorn was dead when FUG retrieved it. It seems the Thorn Ch.104: 30F - Closure (10) can change owner and have different powers. The thorn is incomplete for now and is supposed to be absorbed by Bam, by getting him to a level high enough for the thorn to accept him, or by adding pieces scattered between the levels to stabilize it.

Hence :

6. Enryu was dead ? :o...And he should appear at the end of TOG ?

1. We don't know. And you're focusing on your mistake, it never has been called "god killer", FUG calls it "the thorn to kill kings". So your argument is void from the get go.

2. Sure if Enryu is dead, he's inactive (eventhough it seems souls can still interact lately :/).

3.Well no it doesn't work, that would mean that Enryu already appeared, and it doesn't agree with SIU's statement.

4.Yeah, and wherever the Thorn goes, shinsoo doesn't turn red, and people that are "feeling it" even "god of guardian" don't think "Enryu" as soon as they see it.

5. Even without Enryu inside, we'll never have this problem, since it's a "growing weapon", not fully awaken yet.