Talk:Enryu/@comment-26854521-20160715091728/@comment-26484417-20160715110820

@Rachellover: No it isn't; the argument is preserved even if you substitute "nickname" for "sobriquet", because it only changes from "..that Enryu received the sobriquet 'Guardian Murderer' when he reached the top.. to "..that Enryu received the nickname 'Guardian Murderer' when he reached the top..". How could my statement--that the important aspect of that argument was the "when" (bold for convenience) rather than the "what"--change the nature of the argument in a discussion about chronological order of events?

Just look at this line on the profile "Enryu became the No. 1 Ranker with the nickname of 'Guardian Murderer'.", and combine it with the fact that there is no other mention of him being ranked before this. Following this--even if it turns out that 'Guardian Murderer' is a mere nickname (Note: Which may actually not be the word used to refer to mere nicknames outside of this article, this is currently only your assumption unless you already abandoned it.) rather than ToG Sobriquet--the implied timeline remains unaffected.

That said, you're probably right that no matter whether the word used for nickname in the article above is actually the word used for "mere nicknames" or for something even more emphasised than the ToG Sobriquet, it doesn't mean ToG Sobriquet. But because one alternative pegs it as inferior to ToG Sobriquet, while the other pegs it as superior to ToG Sobriquet, I still defer to the points I raised in the previous section of our discussion, because I believe in the importance of language.

Also, it should still be the explanation with least assumptions, because--no matter what you assume about 'Guardian Murderer--the argument itself retains the same number of assumptions. Moreover, while this distinction is important on its own, it isn't important in my argument. As I explain above, it would still work even if Enryu merely received a wooden stick when he became #1 Ranker. That said, in order for your explanation to work, you explicitly or implicitly assume that, for instance, the information above merely doesn't include Enryu's rank before he became #1.

PS: You're underestimating my research into the linguistic perspective. I didn't merely look for the most common use, I looked into all possible translations of those two words I could find. It's not that "sobriquet" is a rare translation for the word used for ToG Sobriquet, it simply isn't translation for that word at all; as far as I could find in any dictionary (incl. Naver's), it's only a synonym.