User talk:Tofu21

Screenshot
I edited the screenshot like u wanted (using paint ~_~) also do you have a batoto acc?

Sniter 16:11, June 20, 2012 (UTC) Sniter

Although I should be studying...
After my first exam, I decided to take a very short break. Besides, I like this place. XD

These should be the names, although not sure what they are on this wiki.

Prince (프린스, Peurinseu; "Prince")

Hon Arkraptor (혼 아크랩터, Hon Ahkeuraepteo; or "Horn Arkraptor")

Nya Nia (냐니아, Nyah Neeah; "Nya Nia")

Yeon Yihwa (연이화, Yeon Yihwa; or "Yun Eehwa")

Yeo Misaeng (여미생, Yeo Misaeng; or "Yuh Meesaeng")

Yeo Gosaeng (여고생, Yeo Gosaeng; or "Yuh Gosaeng") - funny, since this is what you call a "High School Girl" in Korean.

Kang Horyang (강호량, Gahng Horyahng; "Kang Horyang")

It's possible that you couldn't get results for 연 because he writes 연이화 together often, which would count as one word.

By the way, according to a source on the cafe, SIU replied to a user that the two are not sisters, although they're probably the same family and know each other pretty well. (57610 - SIU Tower of God Official Fan Cafe) Honestly, I thought they were sisters lol.

Well I hope that helped. If there any more questions I'll answer later. After I crush my last two exams yeee GoDai 02:54, June 20, 2012 (UTC)

Ahahaha, yes, lot's of working + dinner break. XD

Anyway, the edits to the test page look fine :D

High Ranker Number Three - Zahard 09:57, June 20, 2012 (UTC)

Yeah... I don't even know how SuperMan is still alive... Then again, Ha Yurin is pretty good at rushing into battle :P

High Ranker Number Three - Zahard 12:08, June 20, 2012 (UTC)

Last edit on Irregulars
Uhm sry dude no offense but your last edit on the Irregular page was kinda unnecessary so uhm i undid it :3

Sniter 16:14, June 20, 2012 (UTC) Sniter


 * C why did yu undo your revision ? it was good

Translations
Considering how in ToG many English words are written in Korean romanization (obvious ones such as Phantaminum/Pentaminum - 펜타미넘), I wouldn't really say anything is exactly incorrect, but rather... not the best translation. I mean, most of their translations are quite formidable, and often I think the same way as them (I search up the best possible translation and sometimes they're already using it), but I think I can somewhat provide an extra hand to make their work even better. I'm not saying that all of these are wrong or anything, but just not the best translations, in a Korean's perspective. Thanks! :P GoDai 18:38, June 22, 2012 (UTC)
 * "Room" for "bang (방)" is definitely a mistranslation. Although that is the usual meaning, SIU has told us that among the 28 different things "방" can mean, here it refers to "放" (release), not "房" (room).
 * If we translated Fisherman, Spear Bearer, Light Bearer, Wave Controller, and Scout, I think we should translate special positions as well (e.g. Anima is English, Burimi is Korean). In that case, Wonsulsa should be Circle Technician, Jeonsulsa should be Lightning Technician, Hwayeomsa should be Blaze User/Master. We just don't know what Dansulsa means yet, so we can leave that one.
 * Wave Controller isn't necessarily wrong. 파도잡이 is a word that doesn't actually exist, but it can be roughly translated as "one who knows and uses waves" so although I do like Wave Wielder, Wave Controller isn't anything bad.
 * Miseng is a possible translation, but not the best. "미생" is broken into "ㅁ ㅣ ㅅ ㅐ ㅇ", going "m i s ae ng", and therefore Misaeng is the best translation. But of course, some people may mispronounce her name as "Meesayng" so Miseng... is meh, ok.
 * I just changed Administrator to Examiner because 시험관 (Lero- Ro, Quant, etc) would be best translated as "examiner", while 관리자 (Headon, etc) would be best translated as "administrator". I know instead of examiner and administrator we used administrator and guardian, respectively, the best translation would be the former. While Examiner and Administrator don't make much difference in English, they make quite a big difference in Korean.

I feel like Macseth. ^.^

http://towerofgod.wikia.com/wiki/User:Test

High Ranker Number Three - Zahard 07:07, June 23, 2012 (UTC)

Translations II
Well I guess you're right. However, that's also why I refrained from drastic action myself. I personally don't think subtle things like Miseng to Misaeng or Dansoolsa or Dansulsa will confuse people. Administrator and Examiner would be extremely similar, and in that case I don't think saying Examiner would confuse too many people. If you feel otherwise just let me know. :P But trust me, I have tried my best to keep things the way they are already. By the way, does "shinsoo" need to be capitalized? GoDai 09:42, June 23, 2012 (UTC)

Not sure if you'd appreciate it but I felt it should be done, since we have rising users and more trolls

Laws of the Wiki

High Ranker Number Three - Zahard 05:04, June 24, 2012 (UTC)

Awesome! I should have worded it like that. funny side note at the end :P

High Ranker Number Three - Zahard 05:23, June 24, 2012 (UTC)

Translations III
Ahh yes I haven't been very active because me and my friends were celebrating all night for the end of the dreadful exam week. Hmm okay. That makes sense. I think for people like me, a list of specified terms being used on the wiki would be helpful :P. Or maybe I could make one for myself on the blog later. 173.180.191.111 22:58, June 24, 2012 (UTC)


 * Ahh that was me. GoDai 23:01, June 24, 2012 (UTC)

i heard you were sick sooo get well soon :)

Sniter 20:16, June 25, 2012 (UTC) Sniter

Working hard, I see? :D sorry about recent absence, some scum tried to steal my computer battery. I'll be back at normal activity tomorrow afternoon. High Ranker Number Three - Zahard 12:47, June 26, 2012 (UTC)

Stuff
Thanks for the info on Robert Aisand, I seriously should get access to that blog.

Wolhaiksong is the Korean pronunciation of 月下翼松, while Wingtree (윙트리, Wing-teu-ree) is just... what SIU decided to call it in English. I feel that the "Song (松)" or pine tree implies that it should really be "The Winged Pine Under the Moon" or even just "The Pine Under the Moon" but I decided to keep it to what I think SIU meant originally. Besides, the story that Urek shrank the forest and put it in a winged box also connects to this, and I'm not too sure if Baekryun's forest is a pine forest.

About families... SIU has stated himself information on that hasn't fully been revealed yet. Considering how there's at least 3 female house heads, I'm not sure if they would use completely different systems. For now, I would just think that the first son in a family continues the bloodline of the main family, while the other sons would be treated as branch families. At least that's what I'm most sure of. SIU indeed has complicated a lot of things. GoDai 20:05, June 26, 2012 (UTC)

Party animal... :P

High Ranker Number Three - Zahard 08:07, June 27, 2012 (UTC)

Yeah probably it is based off the pine tree, or at least SIU chose that tree because like you said, it looks like a winged tree. I'm guessing in this case it can have several allusions and meanings :P GoDai 21:08, June 27, 2012 (UTC)

Trees!
Hmm... there's like, thousands. Even I didn't know that 松 was referring to the pine tree. (Btw I go meaning - pronunciation of the hanja - hanja) The most common two, And then there's all of the following, which are hanja related to plants... I'm not sure if this will help at all. GoDai 07:11, June 28, 2012 (UTC)
 * 나무 목, 木
 * 나무 수, 樹
 * 椐 느티나무 거
 * 菊 국화 국
 * 槲 떡갈나무 곡
 * 樫 떡갈나무 견
 * 桂 계수나무 계
 * 槻 물푸레나무 규
 * 菫 제비꽃 근
 * 檎 능금나무 금
 * 菣 개사철쭉 긴/견
 * 枏 녹나무 남
 * 楠 녹나무 남
 * 檀 박달나무 단
 * 椴 자작나무 단
 * 荙 질경이 달
 * 菄 흰 산국화 동
 * 桐 오동나무 동
 * 欒 모감주나무 란(난)
 * 椋 푸조나무 량(양)
 * 荔 타래붓꽃 려
 * 櫟 상수리나무 력(역)
 * 檗 황벽나무 벽, 황벽나무 백
 * 芙 연꽃 부
 * 芣 질경이 부
 * 枇 비파나무 비
 * 榧 비자나무 비
 * 檳 빈랑나무 빈
 * 杉 삼나무 삼
 * 桑 뽕나무 상
 * 松 소나무 송 <- This one is the one in Wolhaiksong.
 * 蕣 무궁화 순
 * 橓 무궁화나무 순
 * 栒 가름대나무 순
 * 枾 감나무 시
 * 椰 야자나무 야
 * 梧 오동나무 오
 * 芺 엉 겅퀴 요
 * 檿 산뽕나무 염
 * 芫 팥꽃나무 원
 * 楡 느릅나무 유
 * 柚 유자나무 유
 * 柳 버드나무 유
 * 杻 감탕나무 유
 * 楢 졸참나무 유
 * 茙 접시꽃 융
 * 苡 질경이 이
 * 柘 산뽕나무 자
 * 柞 조롱나무 작
 * 樟 녹나무 장
 * 樗 가죽나무 저
 * 楮 닥나무 저
 * 梓 가래나무 재
 * 菨 개연꽃 접
 * 楨 광나무 정
 * 樅 전나무 종
 * 棕 종려나무 종
 * 竹 대나무 죽
 * 榛 개암나무 진
 * 椙 삼나무 창
 * 椒 산초나무 초
 * 槭 단풍나무 척
 * 椿 참죽나무 춘
 * 棌 참나무 채
 * 棣 산앵두나무 체
 * 梔 치자나무 치
 * 櫬 무궁화나무 친
 * 杷 비파나무 파
 * 樺 벚나무 화/자작나무 화
 * 檜 노송나무 회
 * 檜 전나무 회

Yours already look pretty good. Oh LOL hahaha gratzzz GoDai 08:40, June 28, 2012 (UTC)
 * 木 - meaning: tree, 나무, "nahmoo" or "namu" and pronunciation: 목, "mok"
 * 樹 - meaning: (same as above) and pronunciation: 수, "soo" or "su" (Just like the concentration of shinsu :P) GoDai 08:31, June 28, 2012 (UTC)

Hmm seems pretty good. You might just want to make sure all "namu"s say "namu". Otherwise it's great :D. Haha thanks, the results were pretty good overall. About them demonic trees... ok. :P GoDai 17:13, June 28, 2012 (UTC)

Hi, Do we need this page?
This page (Weapons) is more or less the same as this one (Category:Weapons), so do we need both?

Sigfodr 13:38, June 28, 2012 (UTC)

Ranking A.O., and 43F o_O
Whoa this is all really great information. I'll get to it as soon as I complete my list of to-do's. I just finished the entire Comprehensive Info on the Tower Preview form, and I'm waiting for the Full fom ^^. Until then, I'm going to hunt down missing information on the ToG Research Center on the forum. :P GoDai 19:14, June 28, 2012 (UTC)

The preview form is what I just finished translating. I'm just looking around for new information, and avoiding repeats. I also plan to get down to the special positions, with Lightning Technician and Flame User and all that. As for Giga5000... he's a busy guy, and also not a wikia guy :P And thanks for the info on Hendo! GoDai 19:52, June 28, 2012 (UTC)

Oooh I see I see. I'll try my best to keep that in mind. GoDai 10:43, June 30, 2012 (UTC)

Oh, thanks about the commenting. Hahaha yeah... I usually do it in notepad but I didn't realize my battery was so low... it didn't give me a warning like it usually does... well anyway it's a good thing I was just getting started :P GoDai 12:24, June 30, 2012 (UTC)

Those cakes... Oh God why?

But anyway, pocket is 포켓, so po-ket (poket). wand is 완드, so wahn-deu (or wandeu). :P GoDai 21:59, June 30, 2012 (UTC)

Hahaha well I would say your Korean is pretty amazing.

My user name comes from the term used to refer to the five Japanese classical elements, Go Dai (五大, "five great ones"), which are Fire, Wind, Earth, Water, and Void. I'm quite the expert in different kinds of elemental systems and alchemy, and on top of that science is my best subject. I'm sort of like a person who connects the past and present, instead of calling alchemy crack-pot nonsense. Also, haters can seriously Go Die. XD

And haha, we all go through laptop troubles, huh...

Those cakes were hillarious. I'm actually not a fan of sweet things but they do look really good.

Hahaha I really love that song. The lyrics are actually about a guy stalking a girl because he's known her for 3 years and used to go out with her, but she wants him to go away and leave her alone and stop hurting her - but the guy doesn't understand... sounds familiar? Also, I really love the music - the piano, the melody, and the rap. Did I ever mention that I rap in Korean? LOL GoDai 11:07, July 1, 2012 (UTC)

Ah well, good luck with your computer issues. Also, no worries, I do know the Chinese set of elements :P GoDai 04:04, July 2, 2012 (UTC)

LOL yeah, but I myself would be quite disappointed if Pentaminum/Phantaminum didn't make an appearance. I guess SIU could avoid a fighting scene, and maybe have Pentaminum do a display of power by disintegrating a minor character, shocking the others.

At the same time, I feel there must be some complex reason for Pentaminum staying in the Tower. Maybe he has a special purpose for the Tower, like "awakening" someone into an Exis using the very procedure that turned himself into one. Pentaminum could be one of the leaders in the conspiracy to create a true "God," and the Tower may be instrumental for this purpose or something. GoDai 03:53, July 9, 2012 (UTC)

Homestuck
It's actually on hiatus right now, for several weeks while the author works on multiple flashes. So if you do have time in the next month or so, you might be able to catch up a little...

User:Baam25th Whatever you desire, we have a page on it... Tower of God Wiki 04:47, July 9, 2012 (UTC)

Dem Mysteries
Yeah. He definitely has a reason to not destroy the Tower... I'm not sure if Pentaminum could teleport, although Tailse User Story did show us that Exes move insanely fast. Perhaps that's part of how he appears and disappears, although teleportation is quite plausible. About Rachel: Seeing how she refers to Headon as the "fairy," it could be that she read some sort of fairy tale book telling the story of climbing the Tower all the way to the sky and stars. She knows about the Tower's existence, but she clearly didn't know too much, considering how it seems she didn't know what a guide was. All we know for certain is that she knew how to get in... that door on the floor is still quite suspicious to me. Also, why is Headon looking for Enryu... My biggest mystery would be, where the heck is Enryu right now... :P GoDai 23:43, July 10, 2012 (UTC)

I'm pretty positive Enryu will make an appearance, since so many fans are anticipating it :P

I'm still wondering if Baam and Rachel are really outsiders. I have no idea where that cave place is, but I still find it possible that it's in the Outer Tower.

Guides came after Zahard's time? I was thinking Evan's great great great great great grandfather would've helped the 11 of them or something like that.

It is quite possible that the entire Tower on the inside is actually just empty, or just not what it seems to be - After all, if Shinsoo is produced from nothingness and can become anything, everything in the Tower may be some complex manifestation of Shinsoo that forms a more permanent framework. So yeah, SIU could turn it into Matrix.

Royal Guides (자하드 왕가 수석 길잡이, Jahhahdeu Wahngga Sooseok Giljahbi; "Zahard Royal Family Top Guide") seems to be part of the organization. Same goes for the Guard and Elimination Squads.

I asked my mother, who happens to be a university Korean language professor, about the family/organization thing. When we say "Royal Family" in the Korean names of the Guides, Guard Squads, and Elimination Squads of Zahard, the term itself strongly implies that the members are not actually part of the family in question. Even though it would be translated as "Zahard Royal Family blahblahblah" in English, "자하드 왕가" actually means "[in service of] the Royal Family of Zahard" in Korean. Therefore the "Royal Family" part of the word only implies that they only serve Zahard, and actually directly tells us that they are not part of the Royal Family, and are not treated as royals. Lo Po Bia Ren is not part of the Royal Family; he only serves the Family. In real life, this commonly applies to those hired by the family (such as butlers or assassins), although in Zahard's case it's a bit different because he's the King and society works quite differently in the Tower. GoDai 05:44, July 12, 2012 (UTC)

Haha well it's so mysterious that it's actually pretty difficult to make good guesses at this point. I'm guessing a lot less people moved from floor to floor back then, since they didn't have proper weaponry, knowledge of Shinsoo, etc. I'm guessing less people survived the tests and therefore less climbed. However, among them would have been a few people powerful enough to fight Shinhae'eo and possibly, those of the Silver-Haired Dwarf and Red Witch Races to serve as Guides. Congratz about your comp and GL with the rest! ^^ Also, the Bull is definitely a Shinhae'eo, as it could be controlled by Len. GoDai (talk) 04:00, July 13, 2012 (UTC)

Well yeah I'm not sure if Rulers existed back then, but if you think about it, someone must've been the first person ever to climb the Tower - that means there wouldn't have been any Examiners or Rulers. That's why I'm sorta guessing that the "Only Irregulars can take the Guardian's test" rule was invented after Zahard set up his kingdom and all. By the "Zahard is the king and society is different" thing, I meant that "[in service of] the Royal Family of Zahard" implies that they've been hired. However, I don't think Zahard would "hire" them and pay them... I just think they would just pledge their loyalty to Zahard for their own reasons. Also, the side story with the Koon team is coming up soon! GoDai (talk) 03:24, July 15, 2012 (UTC)