Talk:Khun Ran/@comment-5693502-20161211192935/@comment-26484417-20161219091833

For the first bit, no Novick doesn't have that same claim, because SIU never commented on Novicks capabilities in the Fisherman position. That said, I could easily argue that Novick is Fisherman as well as Spear Bearer--I wouldn't because of the lack of SIU's support on the matter, but I could--and it wouldn't be anywhere as ridiculous as you make it try to sound. If this was anywhere near the base for your reasoning, then this should be it for your argument.

As for the second bit, it doesn't really seem that way to me, though. True, SIU is playing around with the positions, combinations thereof, and so forth, but this is something else. There is also the old "issue" that has been around ever since the beginning of S2, where--when we left behind the safety wheels of S1 (mostly on 2F)--many people suddenly stopped relying on the one concept by which we can describe our characters despite SIU dedicating quite a lot of "screen-time" to it; however, this isn't it either. SIU stated that Ran is better Spear Bearer than Fisherman (so far doesn't differ from Maschenny's case), but Ran himself also said that he's going to take up the position of a Spear Bearer (all the difference from Maschenny); once again, what exactly do you think it means for a character to have multiple positions, if it isn't that character actually takes up that role EXPLICITLY from time to time? Because I can only hope that you haven't been labouring under the notion that they perform all of their positions at all times, because--no matter how SIU plays around with the positions sometime--there are actually mutually exclusive positions.

As for the hybrid examples you mention, Rak doesn't fit because even in melee he heavily utilises his spear, and even if he didn't--like Amigo or Novick--there is no rule that says that Spear Bearer can only use spears in every situation lest be considered to be another position; what is Long-distance Spear Bearer to do in melee? Yihwa also doesn't fit that example, because--while Yeon Hana is indeed this kind of hybrid--Yihwa has never demonstrated multiple Baangs as far as I remember, nor proper control of Shinsoo, associated with being a Wave Controller. Maybe that's why no-one has said that all of these characters are hybrid position; again, if this was anywhere near the base of your argument, this should really be it.