Talk:Twenty-Fifth Baam/Abilities and Powers/@comment-26850068-20150803123910/@comment-5693502-20150803132002

I'm under the impression that the fake Thorn and the Devil are the exact same thing and that whatever Reflejo gave to Baam initially just allowed him to actively control the fake Thorn's power to a degree.

Hwa Ryun said the fake Thorn is the container for the real Thorn; to me, that sounds like the real Thorn is just immense raw power and the fake Thorn is a mechanism that enables Baam to harness its power (if that makes sense).

SIU stated in one of his gossips that the Thorn cannot speak, which I believe. He never said that the  fake Thorn  cannot speak, which is why I think the thing Baam spoke to was the fake Thorn / Devil.