Talk:FUG/@comment-26484417-20151123160106/@comment-26484417-20151124033738

@Rachellover69: I can think of at least 2 other ways mitigating the potential for refusal and antagonisation, and I'm not even trying... Moreover, you forget (or at least don't mention) that if they rely on the former (threatening), they only secure Baam's cooperation for as long as he can be threatened, yet their ultimate goal can only be fulfilled when Baam becomes powerful enough to slay Zahard (= almost assuredly beyond their threats). Moreover, this very method antagonises Baam to the point where the latter (convincing) is nigh impossible to implement. If they first at least tried convincing, they actually might have succeeded. Considering the number of people wronged by the 10 Great Families they managed to accumulate, it should have been a piece of cake to get Baam all emotional and sympathetic...

@Demotivator: It's really simple, and probably already answered in the first part of this very comment. Instead of trying to get Baam on their side, they directly went for the method that is sure to antagonise him and that is sure to lose its effect in the future... And to make things worse, they allowed internal discord to antagonise Baam even further...

Their current approach is basically a paradox. For as long as Baam can be threatened by FUG, he lacks the power necessary to fulfil their goal, yet once he is powerful enough to fulfil their goal, they can no longer successfully threaten him to do so. Not a very good strategy...