Talk:Enryu/@comment-28805348-20160705184138/@comment-26484417-20160712101314

@Red Shinsoo: I don’t understand the first paragraph; I specifically mention that the exchanged did matter in my previous comment.

The second paragraph is really weird. First, if you’re using my statement, then the comparison of strength is inverted (i.e., the generic comparison is Irregulars < Guardians, not Guardians < Irregulars). You didn’t really demonstrate contradiction in my argument, only your misunderstanding. Since we were talking about Family Heads, the weaker Irregular are Gustang, Hana, and others who rank at the bottom of known Irregulars. I did cover this extensively in the previous comment too.

As for the “illustration”; you’re saying that because Irregulars get stronger as they climb--the same as non-Irregulars--it means that all Irregulars on 100F are / were about as powerful as Urek was on 100F? First, that has absolutely nothing to do with my logic. Second, that’s like saying that all non-Irregulars on 100F are about equal in power, which is the furthest thing from the truth. Even much lower Floors have huge gaps among non-Irregulars, what would make you think that they would all be pretty much equal on higher Floors when we know there is such a thing as weak Rankers and High Rankers? And we know even Irregulars have different power-levels, so I cannot really see your point there. Not sure how the last question in the paragraph fits in either; I said Baek could probably wipe the Floor with a weaker Irregulars (according to the ranking that would be the likes of Gustang and Hana), why are you pitting him against Urek--who was one of the 3 strongest Irregulars in the Tower already on 100F? (Note: no reader should count Phantaminum as an Irregular)

Coming to the third paragraph; you may indeed want to keep saying that, but not really for me. I’m the one in this discussion who made case why only Urek and Zahard--and not the Family Heads--may have some chance of being compared to Enryu, while you’re the one who originally argued that Family Heads are part of this scope as well.

NOTE: Since your refined theory further accounts for the things I argued during this discussion, it has reached the intended goal as far as I'm concerned. Only the secondary topics--that came up along the way--are left, and this isn't necessarily place for them anyway.

Moving on, what are you talking about? Non-irregulars like Baek Ryun and even Adori are ranked above more than half of the known Irregulars, so what exactly is your reasoning to suggest that all Irregulars reign supreme over them? As for the non-Irregular vs. Guardians, that’s even weirder. First, you just said the perspective is Urek and Enryu, now you bring in non-Irregulars? Second, why are you pitting non-Irregulars against Guardians in the first place; the comparison really only helps to prove my point.

Finally, is the point of your last paragraph that Urek is not nearly as scary to the Family Heads as Enryu? Because that can only help prove my point that Enryu's feats are hugely impressive even to the eyes of the Family Heads.