Board Thread:Questions and Answers/@comment-5693502-20160116015009/@comment-16674955-20160118191337

Athanos wrote: Moreover, if this awakening mechanism wasn't there in the first place, why create it at all? Without pre-existing mechanism to gauge whether there is something dormant inside of the climbers (e.g., GoG), there would be no reason to assume there is something more to awaken... right?

Demotivar wrote: I've been thinking about this too and it is a little perplexing, though it does lend support to the idea that there were Irregulars before Zahard. On another forum someone brought up the point that the Hell Train is nothing more than a plot device (their reasoning came from something else however). I can't remember where I've said it before, but it doesn't seem to make much sense that only Irregulars can undergo Revolution to "find their true self that is unrelated to society, ideologies and others". The entire concept of "Revolution" doesn't sound like anything special; it just sounds like it gives a person enlightenment (which in and of itself shouldn't really give a person much of a physical power boost). So why is it that Revolution is solely limited to Irregulars ? What do people from outside have that Tower natives don't ?

Personally, it makes me think of the "create an exis/god" theory.

In a way, if you were to assume the tower was created by a group of exis who wanted to "make the people prone to awaken to find their own way in life", the concept of revolution would really make sense.

Because the only ones who are to take guardian tests (administrator, whatever you want) are the irregulars, and it seems the irregulars are to enter through the gate from the outside, it makes sense that the "insiders" are not to "undergo the revolution".

I am aware that the hell train was created for "zahard 11" but if you look at it from a reader perspective, and if this theory of the "tower created by exis in order to create god" is true, it is entirely possible that this event was decided by whoever exis is in charge of the story of TOG.

Edit: this is unclear like that but what I'm trying to say is that this concept of "finding your way" seems to be pretty dear to SIU, thus why he uses it in several of his works.

After all, when you enter the tower, you do it because of a reason. If you don't want to enter it, then there would still be something or someone that "enacts" your entering the tower, like for Baam with Rachel, and probably Urek with Phantaminum. But once you're in, there's no escape, and you might not find any meaning in this tower. Thus, instead of reaching a seemingly neverending light above your head (figuratively), you find your own way in life, in the tower. You don't get swayed by others and the society.

Because even IRL, our life is pretty futile and meaningless, and so are our world and our society. To grow up, to find your way in life and settle down--this is the feeling I get from SIU. Baam is a character that was and is pretty futile. He lived in his cave for so long, and only knew Rachel then he's skyrocketted in this brand new world, but this world doesn't interest him. This plot device called the "revolution in the hell train" is a convenient plot device allowing him to find a goal and get more powerful altogether. It might have no deeper meaning besides this.