Talk:Jyu Viole Grace/Abilities and Powers/@comment-17177875-20131209033020/@comment-124.125.30.235-20131212130913

we havent seen the real thorn activated, or its power. baam gets the thorn but it was shown just floating. if you think carefuuly baam could have concentrated all 3 bangs i.e max soo at 3 bangs, also he was sweating which proved its was hard. rather we need to wait to see thorns true strenght. color of shinsoo showed it is concentrated.

also, we havent seen baam at his max strenght before.

also, seeing baaam using fake thorn it was clear it is strenght based and not shinsoo.

also, we dont know what the thorn really is or whether it has a potential to grow more?