Talk:Vol.2 Ch.184: 38F - Hell Train: The Dallar Show (13)/@comment-5693502-20160113003027/@comment-26854521-20160114171923

Nah, you can't conclude that Wing Tree was founded immediately after Urek became a Ranker. And you certainly can't conclude that Yuri must have been a Ranker when Hagipherione passed the test because of it since there's absolutely no connection between those two things(doesn't mean that it's wrong but there's no reason to conclude that). There can be a good amount of time between deciding to found an organization and actually doing it. In the first place they also needed members, so they probably took a good amount of time to find people before the ceremony where Yuri was said to be present.

Also if I think more about the statement that Yuri is the only Princess to receive a 13 month series in the last 500 years, that also indicates that there was a Princess getting a 13 month series 500 years ago (though not necessarily). It would actually fit pretty well in the timeline, but that would mean that Yuri wasn't a Princess at the Zahard palace incident.

1.)~600 years ago, young Yuri at Zahard's palace (not a Ranker)

2.) short time later Urek enters the Tower and starts climbing

3.)few decades, but less than 50 years later Urek passes Arie Hon's test

4)50 years later he becomes a Ranker

Now for Hagipherione. It is possible that she was a Regular before Urek came in and that he passed her on the way. The only thing I can assume here is that she still climbed ridiculously fast and was extremely strong. If we stick to that time line she must have become a formal Princess and received the Red October within at most ~50 years after Urek became a Ranker. So that would also mean that she climbed the last 34 floors in less than ~50 years, since she passed the test after Urek.That seems extremely fast, but if we consider that she passed Arie Hon's test it might not to too far fetched.

Maybe the reason she became a formal Princess that fast was because she is actually from the Arie Family and so there aren't many candidates who could actually wield Red October properly or it was sort of reserved for an Arie Family Princess.