Talk:White/Clone/@comment-25346948-20161116144059/@comment-26484417-20161118124327

Well, your "but" appears to put something we do know from SIU on the same level as something we don't know. Specifically, I'm talking about the difference between the "weak Shinsoo on 43F" and "Princesses of Zahard boost".

It's not that I deny this about Princesses--there was that remark about how fast Androssi is even without Shinsoo reinforcement--, but the core question is whether that's something contract based that may or may not be stripped from them on 43F, or whether it's "genetics" that are part of them no matter the environment. That's two separate things--"Are existing contracts inactive on 43F?" and "Are Princess / Ha super physique / endurance contract-based boost?"--that we don't know at this point. However, Demotivator went with the assumption that contracts are inactive on 43F, so my point was that if this is supposed to apply to Hoaqin's contract boosts, it must apply to contracts boosting Yuri as well as everyone else.

If those super physique boosts aren't contract based, and / or if existing contracts are active on 43F, then Yuri and Evan--and any potential Ranker that joins the fray--might not be as "useless" as one might imagine, but it's not like this would close the gap between Hoaqin and them, because Hoaqin's pre-existing contracts would be active as well as theirs in addition to the whole soul mechanics. In other words, for Rankers and Hoaqin, it's not "closing the gap" as much as "raising the bar", though it would at least put them above Regulars of whom Yuri appears to be so protective.

As for balancing things, it's entirely possible that if Yuri and other Rankers are rendered "useless" because of 43F environment, the main counter-balance to Hoaqin's soul mechanics becomes Baam the Irregular who may actually thrive--in a manner of speaking--in Guardian-free environment.