Board Thread:Questions and Answers/@comment-5693502-20140510161053/@comment-16674955-20160726051708

84.216.95.30 wrote: EternET wrote: Huuuuuuuuh...And you didn't even talk about the "fighting" abilities of the said Rankers ( Like Evan who has very low ones).

Ok first point: Do Irregulars have to be very strong ? => The answer is no. When asked how many Irregulars entered the tower, SIU said : " it is a secret" [1] ( and asked if Ashul Edwaru was one, he said : he is the master of the gonbang...:/). Obviously, since the Top 6 high-rankers are essentialy Irregulars, they are the beings with the "most potentiale, but that doesn't mean: -They just enter with an amazing power ready on.

-They are all insanely strong => The last family head is very remote in the ranking.

Everybody compares Baam to Urek (even in the tower), but somehow I don't get the feeling they're comparing Baam and Urek "at the same stage(s)". Idk (but Id think) Yuri was there when Urek entered. Maybe he wasn't "that strong" from the start. Also, an A-grade guide didn't see Baam's powers, when this one could go unaffected by very dense shinsoo => I get the feeling Irregualrs "get" their power(s) once they enter ( after accepting) the first evaluation by Headon. Which would mean Urek was also "quite" normal as he entered, but as he (I assume already was) a daredevil, he got his amazing qualities very fast. But there again, that doesn't mean "right from the start".

Also, Princesses of Zahard can be "physicaly" superior to rankers from the floor of tests => That's the result of Zahard's power with a great family's blood. So I guess as soon as they can manipulate shinsoo like an "average" ranker, they are actually superior to them ( and thus the Regular Ranking doesn't count there).

So now for the conclusion : Baam's ability to "defeat" a Ranker, depends : On the Ranker's abilities. It depends on Baam's "own" ability to manipulate shinsoo, and it depends on Baam's getting better at using "the Thorn"( for his power with the Thorn is almost a "mini" guardian). Out of that we can't extract "a rule", also Baam has a "plot armour", and even if SIU said the thorn wouldn't be a "deus ex machina", it's a very comon occurence in "shonen" => What happened when he was out of shinsoo ?=> The Thorn. What happened when he was beaten down by Reflejo ? The thorn. But Baam still has other surprises (he can already freeze "low" Rankers). Also idk about you but I find that "him being helped by shinsoo itself" didn't go well with his "low (but still above average) mastery" of it.

Sadely, SIU would have been able to put a "can escape fights/without fights" ability (of the story) in the last arc, but I guess it's more "exciting" for the "shonen fans" to have BIG fights. But that would mean that either Baam "defeats" what's in front of him, or it won't show up until it is (even slightly) possible to do so (and his "meeting" with Urek just showed that, he can't back up, and was "saved" by the "plot"=> Rules and objectives self imposed by the most powerful). I think the world outside the tower has higher desnity of shinsoo in some places compared to the tower. If you compare Urek to Baam, the obvious conclusion would be that Urek spent a lot of time fighting in the outside world and grew very powerful, while Baam spent all that time locked in a cave and barely have experience being around other people. Considering the cave Baam was in had the crest of Zahard, I'm pretty sure the ten families exist on the outside as well, and that the entrance may well be a place that is guarded and kept secret by the Zahard family. So Baam may well be connected to the Zahard family, but not to the King. Take this into account and the difference in power levels on the irregulars makes much more sense. Urek might actually have been an extremely powerful fighter on the outside. Phantaminum may well be as mysterious to the outsiders as he was to the citizens inside the tower. So when Urek saw him he probably was impressed and wanted to fight him and followed him into the tower, like his story says he did.

Also, one of my theories have always been that the tower isn't something that is visible on the surface on the outside, but actually under the surface and pointed downwards and you actually start at what would have been the top. That would also explain why Baam entered from a cave. Or anyone who enters from the top actually is teleported down to the first floor. Either way, the top of the tower might actually be the way out into the outside world.

Outside of the tower, there is no shinsoo, only air. It is basically "like our world".