Talk:Twenty-Fifth Baam/@comment-34005261-20180619061209

The goal of this post will be to provide a theory about the thorn fragments based on what we know so far. I may just be talking out of my ass here (as I normally am when I post to reddit) but that's what this place is for, right? Right? RIGHT? =Shinsoo Control= The first thorn fragment seems to specialize in shinsoo. Perhaps this is a lame claim and that all thorn fragments come with some shinsoo power boost, but I don't think SIU would spend so much time, effort, and hype into giving completely vanilla power ups for Baam. Besides, Khun has referred to the shinsoo control of Baam + Thorn as "near god-like." What would a second shinsoo fragment add to that? =EXTREME Shinsoo Control= Now, while Khun says that the thorn is "near god-like" shinsoo control, I speculate that the thorn actually has the potential to have BEYOND god-like shinsoo control. The reason for this is simply Baam's usefulness against Hell Joe + Red Thryssa on the Floor of Death. I have seen some speculation as to why Urek said that only Baam can prevent Red Thryssa from exploding and killing all the regulars. After all, they are both irregulars, and Urek far stronger. The reason for this, I believe, is that the thorn grants Baam even stronger shinsoo control than the Red Thryssa has. Seeing as the Red Thryssa has come from the 43rd floor Guardian and even shares some of its memories, its shinsoo control may be considered "god-like." For Baam to be able to control it better would mean the thorn can match up against a Guardian's power. =Red Tower= The third piece of evidence can mainly be seen when Baam is learning to use the Orb. You can check back on the chapter, but as soon as Baam starts using the thorn, the Orb turns red. =Conclusion= These pieces of evidence point towards a connection between Enryu and the Thorn.

Enryu was noted for his shinsoo control but not just that, he could even control it better than the 43rd floor Guardian, even considered to be "breaking the laws of the Tower." I believe the Red Thryssa vs Thorn was a rematch, in a sense, of that battle, though Baam is still weak right now, and the thorn incomplete, so Baam could only make a crack for Urek as opposed to completely counter it.

Enryu was also noted for shinsoo turning red near him, with the reason as to why being unknown. Baam gains a similar quality when he uses the thorn.

So the thorn and the Enryu seem far more connected than Enryu being a simple messenger. Perhaps Enryu used the thorn against the Guardian, or perhaps some other mysterious reason. Regardless, the thorn and Enryu seem to share similar abilities. Every piece of lore SIU has given us about Enryu has become relevant to the thorn. Well, almost. And that's leads to... =Hypothesis= The last piece of lore given to us about Enryu was actually not given in SIU's character profiles but by Lero-Ro, that Enryu is able to create life with shinsoo. There has been some debate that Enryu has given life to Baam, though this theory has nothing to do with that.

My hypothesis is that we are finally getting a taste of that lore. If the thorn and the Enryu share the same capabilities, regardless of why or how, then it stands to reason that perhaps the thorn can also create life.

This is extremely relevant to the latest chapter (S2, E306). When Zahard kills Baam (or at least it looks like he does?) the second fragment activates. If the thorn fragments have aspects of Enryu's power, then I hypothesize that the second fragment at least contains the power to create life. So Baam will not be dead for long.