Board Thread:Questions and Answers/@comment-5693502-20140510161053/@comment-5693502-20161230001405

69.145.30.122 wrote: Well Demotivator if you notice i said he CAN control shinsoo without a contract but up till now we have seen no one besides baam who controlled shinsoo without even meaning to not just without a contract Baam had zero intention of controlling the shinsoo to attack hwa ryun it just happened and as far as we know Urek or anyone else is incapable of provoking a response from shinsoo without the slightest bit of intent, it was a completely subconcious attack on baams part and correct me if im wrong but i dont believe there are any instances spoken of or otherwise where someone completely subconciously controlled shinsoo. You realise what you're trying to defend is a truly unimpressive feat. Baam subconsciously controlling shinsoo without a contract highlighted that 1) He is 100% an Irregular (since he can utilise shinsoo without the Guardian's permission) and 2) He had absolutely no skill in regards to shinsoo control at that point in time. It pretty much proved that it was all an instinctual action in response to the danger posed to Rachel...

69.145.30.122 wrote: Also for the record i seriously doubt enryu is Baams father there has been no evidence for that at all, the only reason i say Enne could be his mother is because there have been plenty of instances in the story thout COULD be an indicator of that visa vi logic. Fair enough, not gonna debate the Enne thing here ^^

69.145.30.122 wrote: And again we have no reason to believe Baam will not be as strong as Urek was or stronger by the time he gets to floor 100. If i recall correctly Urek passed all floors in 50 years well it hasnt been anywhere near 50 years and Baam is already in the 40s of the tower floors and his power is exponentially increasing as the story continues... your a fool if you think he wont be OP by floor 100. Woah woah woah, hold your horses pardner ! You cannot use or compare Baam's current ascension of the Tower as an indication since quite a few other characters have also reached the same Floor as Baam and they pale in comparison to his strength (e.g. Koon, Leesoo, Androssi etc). Baam by the 100th Floor:
 * OP in comparison to the Regulars, 100% yes, definitely.
 * OP in comparison to the average Ranker, I now begrudgingly believe it to be a real possibility.
 * OP in comparison to the average High Ranker, I'm confidently saying no.
 * OP in comparison to someone of Arie Hon's level, a big fat no.

Baam by the 134th Floor (i.e. by the time he's become a Ranker):
 * OP in comparison to the average Ranker, 100% yes, definitely.
 * OP in comparison to the average High Ranker, there's a fair chance.
 * OP in comparison to someone of Arie Hon's level, still no.