Talk:White/@comment-26846012-20151214131850/@comment-26484417-20160102003615

I'd spent a very short time "lecturing" you on the issue because of the first part of your original post and its point. Given what you wrote in the second paragraph of your latest comment (about 180° turn), I'm going to assume it wasn't in vain.

As for the second part of your original comment and its point, I cannot quite decide. In your latest comment, you first raise the point that it's not worth comparing the two rituals... and then you write that the one that gave birth to White is potentially superior. Leaving the contradiction aside, as I've reasoned in one of my previous comments in this thread, I maintain that given how little we know on the matter, these rituals can only be treated as equal. At least until we learn enough about both rituals to confidently identify their strengths and weaknesses, as well as their overall potential.

As for how Hoaqin got on the train, I believe it was covered partly and mostly implicitly in the story, and there was also some discussion somewhere on this wikia... =)