Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-31188206-20170201130302/@comment-26484417-20170204155232

Oh well Lord Asriel Sew wrote: ...   Even the statement by SIU can easily mean nothing but the rules and enforcement(s) thereof that are in place--some of which we may not even know about; your adage to this statement is pretty much disproved simply by Garam’s existence though, so it's difficult to tell exactly what SIU meant and whether it's still part of the story. Also, even something like this can be easily discarded for as long as it didn't make any appearance in the story, so your "I think that" is more like "I hope that".   Where exactly does it say that Rachel doesn’t know that Karaka is the other person with the ring? Also don’t forget that Karaka doesn’t always wear his armour, so--even if she doesn't recognise Karaka when she sees him--she could have met him (or someone like Headon could have pointed him out to her) while Karaka was out of his armour. But for the sake of the argument, let's say there are indeed 3 individuals with the Ring. It would is still be a far-cry from the number of Princesses successfully defying Zahard, so the point remains valid regardless.   Everything in this bit is unsupported or directly contradicted, and some of it actually contradicts your own theory. First, to address the "Zahard doesn't fear Baam..." bit: We know that Zahard is currently inactive, so it’s possible--if not very probable--that he doesn’t even know that Baam is currently in the Tower. Moreover, while Ren was “it would be great if” at first, he finished with “cannot let an Irregular live”. Clearly indicating that despite his personal opinion--which is likely ignorant given his station--, orders from above are orders--and they happen to directly contradict your statement. Second, the Enne and Garam theory is just that--a theory that happens to have no support so far. However, the very idea that "being hidden from pursuers" is enough to escape from Zahard's control invalidates your argument that Princesses are under control that couldn't be applied to Princes with equal success.   It may not render your theory false, but it highlights that it's far less likely to be true than how it is portrayed. That is because your theory requires a very specific interpretation of those words, while there are obviously many ways to interpret them that would not support it; this is really just a balance of probabilities.   Granted, the article says that they have his "blood" but not his blood. The issues with this portion of your theory are these: There is no reason to believe that “having his blood” and “receiving his "blood"" yield different results. And there is also no reason to believe that Princes were / are any different from Princesses in this regard (i.e., both were merely infused with "blood"). So yes, it does invalidate your previous point.   There are many MANY "what if" all over the ToG story, but it's really difficult to argue for a theory that has no other support than "what if", and it's extremely difficult to disprove once there is even the tiniest of contradictions.   -- That all said, it isn't to say that some of what you argue is entirely impossible; I'm merely highlighting the bits that are problematic.

For instance, it's entirely possible that there is indeed some control for Princesses that we don't know about, and that Garam is hiding on FoD not to escape potential pursuers, but to be free of Zahard's control; after all, this is place where contracts don't work. And it's equally possible that Zahard was trying to control Enne, but she was too powerful to control and managed to resist and the result was her madness. However, these are entirely unsupported, because--even though they are built around the bits we do know--the entirety of the explanation is purely speculative.